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Darkish  posted on Jan 18, 2007 8:44:55 PM - Report post

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"So we think we can go straight to God by ourselves."

If you're talking about faith and faith alone...I've got a handful of Bible verses that can easily counter that.

The Catholics pretty much believe that it is because of God's grace that we are saved and able to enter Heaven.

But we cannot receive that grace unless we have both faith...and good works.

Faith...well that pretty much answers itself.

And good works to answer God's call and receive His graces.

 
Shibby  posted on Jan 19, 2007 8:51:13 PM - Report post

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someone: "To darkish: You are wondering where the jibberish came from? Go to church. Have you never seen this happen?"

DR: "No. My Dad is militray and we as a family have traveled the USA and Europe...have gone to many Masses and I have never witnesses anything like jibberish..."

Me: As seen on the movie "Borat" and on several documentarys and so forth, there are churches where people honestly believe that they have healing powers and all that, and when they heal these people, the person they're healing talks gibberish for a while. It's quite common

 
HMGURL  posted on Jan 19, 2007 8:53:40 PM - Report post

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The world would be so much easier if everyone were atheist.
Or at least believe in the same thing that way there wouldn't be any conflicts about that anymore.
 
Darkish  posted on Jan 19, 2007 9:14:30 PM - Report post

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The world would be so much easier if everyone were atheist.
Or at least believe in the same thing that way there wouldn't be any conflicts about that anymore.

If only...if only.


"Me: As seen on the movie "Borat" and on several documentarys and so forth, there are churches where people honestly believe that they have healing powers and all that, and when they heal these people, the person they're healing talks gibberish for a while. It's quite common"

Ok, fine. But can you tell me what Church they are related too? Because I am hesitant to believe that the Catholic Church teaches this.

 
Shibby  posted on Jan 19, 2007 10:51:35 PM - Report post

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The Borat movie didnt say for legal reasons, and I cant remember from the documentary's
 
Troodon80  posted on Jan 20, 2007 6:14:45 AM - Report post

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The world would be so much easier if everyone were atheist.
Or at least believe in the same thing that way there wouldn't be any conflicts about that anymore.

without question.
i heard a saying not so long ago [no offense intended]

[question]What is god? who is god:
[reply] god is the guy people sahre their feelings with and when desperate people prey to him... he's the guy who ignores you.

now when you prey to him do you get your questions answered,

have you ever gotten a win on the lotto or any other draw because you prayed to god.

did a little voice ever talk to you because you prayed to god

-on the last one if you ever got a little voice talk to you, you should find a therepist....

 
Darkish  posted on Jan 20, 2007 7:47:31 AM - Report post

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What would this world be like if everyone got their prayer's answered.

Go watch the movie, 'Bruce Almighty' and you'll know exactly what I mean.

God is more likely to answer the prayer when someones asks for guidance before He answers the prayers for a new PS3.

 
Narutokid  posted on Jan 22, 2007 1:27:30 PM - Report post

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love that movie. btw, where's that verse on good works being mandatory to get to heaven? Of course, we do anyway to help our fellow man. Another thing: gimme one out of those 1k counters. btw I meant COMMUNICATING with God, which the Pope CLAIMS he has the power to stop. bull.
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