So I've really tried tweaking this Trainer, but I'm missing something. As others have said, the cheats work for both AI and the human user, so it sort of defeats the purpose. I'm a new player, so the default game was just too hard at the standard difficulty - no matter what, the AI nations were always attacking with modern weapons while I was still with pikes, etc.
So I thought the trainer could balance it out, to give me an advantage in the beginning at least. No such luck. Any cheat just allows the enemies to have the same advantage, so the game just runs faster, but without any benefit of the "cheat." You still get beat, just faster.
Also, the stickiness of the settings for Civics and Research is a problem. At first, I just wanted a few turns of benefit, but then saw they all stuck on "1 turn" even when the trainer was off, the game restarted, and even the PC rebooted. I learned that tweaking the optional numbers allows you some control over how many turns the effect will last, but it's hit and miss.
And, again, it only grants the cheats to the enemy, so it's kinda pointless.
Am I doing something wrong?
do you disable the options before you end your turn? it shouldn't register for the AI then.
Disabling and re-enabling really don't do anything. You can disable the trainer entirely and quit the game, and the last settings you set will still persist. This is where playing with the numerical values comes in. You can limit how many turns into the future the settings will persist, but it's somewhat hit and miss. I don't know the logic behind it, and the README is silent on it.
So...
In order to get the trainer to work
I have to BUY the DLC
……
meh
Yep
Well sadly that's a pass then
Whole point of getting it for free was so I didn't have to pay for it on Steam lmao
I bought it on Steam on/near release and refunded it cuz I didn't like the changes compared to Civ V.
Of all the free games ive gotten on Epic this has been the only game ive actually played cuz epic sucks, so that's a bit disappointing.
They are giving you the base, vanilla civ for free. All of the 1000 DLC, expansion, packs, etc. that have come out since then which make the game actually enjoyable and complete cost extra. They also costed extra if you owned the base game on STEAM. The point of us making ONE trainer is that the developers of this game took a stupid approach of making a zillion different .dll's for each 'release' or expansion of this game. Each patch, the 4 .dll's ALL update. To try and accomodate EVERY POSSIBLE ITERATION of this game series, we would have to make 4 separate trainers AND updates for each patch, to which there has been MANY patches. We simply are not going to do that. We support the latest, most feature packed iteration of the game. That's the reason. If we made trainer ONLY for vanilla civ, we would have a revolt for the same reason, as people would complain they own all this other content (the true fans of the game, not the freebie seekers) that the trainer doesn't work for. We cannot win either way, we realize this, and accept the criticism, but made a decision that best fits the true civ fans and players of this game.
best,
Cal
So I've really tried tweaking this Trainer, but I'm missing something. As others have said, the cheats work for both AI and the human user, so it sort of defeats the purpose. I'm a new player, so the default game was just too hard at the standard difficulty - no matter what, the AI nations were always attacking with modern weapons while I was still with pikes, etc.
So I thought the trainer could balance it out, to give me an advantage in the beginning at least. No such luck. Any cheat just allows the enemies to have the same advantage, so the game just runs faster, but without any benefit of the "cheat." You still get beat, just faster.
Also, the stickiness of the settings for Civics and Research is a problem. At first, I just wanted a few turns of benefit, but then saw they all stuck on "1 turn" even when the trainer was off, the game restarted, and even the PC rebooted. I learned that tweaking the optional numbers allows you some control over how many turns the effect will last, but it's hit and miss.
And, again, it only grants the cheats to the enemy, so it's kinda pointless.
Am I doing something wrong?
do you disable the options before you end your turn? it shouldn't register for the AI then.
Disabling and re-enabling really don't do anything. You can disable the trainer entirely and quit the game, and the last settings you set will still persist. This is where playing with the numerical values comes in. You can limit how many turns into the future the settings will persist, but it's somewhat hit and miss. I don't know the logic behind it, and the README is silent on it.
I am not seeing what options that you are talking about that are granted to the AI. If I use the movement option, for example, for my units and then leave it on for the next turn it takes forever because the AI is moving all it's units all over the place, however if it's off before I end my turn it progress as normal. Same for other resources, gold totals can be seen in the trade menu with other civs. If i give myself 50,000 gold i can then start a trade with the AI and see that the only have a base amount for the playtime. So I'm not sure what you are running into.
Hi,
I can confirm the problems.
However, it seems to be important to me that the above mentioned error message (Capture Unit Base Address, Script error in line 6: The module name 'GameCore_XP2_FinalRelease.dll' does not exist!) only occurs when I play scenarios.
If I start a normal game with Gathering Storm, the trainer works.
On the other hand it doesn't work in i.e. the Alexander scenario.
Maybe there's a fix for this problem?
[Edited by Telcon, 2/18/2020 9:42:52 AM]
Hi all, I just checked this constellation and can confirm the error. I assume the trainer is not itended to work with the scenarios?
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I have looked through a number of the post via searching for the scenarios keyword and have not seen any direct reply to the issue and please forgive me if I missed it. I do indeed own all the DLC for the game and it is all installed and running, I have also run in both DX11 and 12, disabled antivirus, not run the trainer until I was in the game, gone two turns into a game before running the trainer, etc. I am under the assumption that the game is making ADDITIONAL dll for EACH of the scenarios - but this is a guess, and if that is the case then c'est la vie because I don't expect nor encourage making a trainer for just the scenarios if my guess is correct. I would like to simply know if that is the case or not, and if not then to see if there is something that I am doing wrong or not.
P.S.
The people that are losing their minds that the can't get cheats for a AAA game that was given out for free without first being "forced" to buy the rest of the game content are just a little too entitled for me. I feel that the CH team does fantastic work and to see them put down with language that seems to have come from the great Cheeto himself is, as it was put, unacceptable behavior. Keep up the good work, the CH team is awesome! hashtag thecustomerisoftenwrong
Well sadly that's a pass then
Whole point of getting it for free was so I didn't have to pay for it on Steam lmao
I bought it on Steam on/near release and refunded it cuz I didn't like the changes compared to Civ V.
Of all the free games ive gotten on Epic this has been the only game ive actually played cuz epic sucks, so that's a bit disappointing.
They are giving you the base, vanilla civ for free. All of the 1000 DLC, expansion, packs, etc. that have come out since then which make the game actually enjoyable and complete cost extra. They also costed extra if you owned the base game on STEAM. The point of us making ONE trainer is that the developers of this game took a stupid approach of making a zillion different .dll's for each 'release' or expansion of this game. Each patch, the 4 .dll's ALL update. To try and accomodate EVERY POSSIBLE ITERATION of this game series, we would have to make 4 separate trainers AND updates for each patch, to which there has been MANY patches. We simply are not going to do that. We support the latest, most feature packed iteration of the game. That's the reason. If we made trainer ONLY for vanilla civ, we would have a revolt for the same reason, as people would complain they own all this other content (the true fans of the game, not the freebie seekers) that the trainer doesn't work for. We cannot win either way, we realize this, and accept the criticism, but made a decision that best fits the true civ fans and players of this game.
best,
Cal
Don't get me wrong bud, I understand fully.
i'm just saying its annoying because it is, just because the reasoning is understandable doesn't mean it cant be annoying.
And while the DLCs may make the game tons better, i'm just happy to play it for free. even the vanilla isn't as bad as I remember it, but some of the VI specific stuff is still bleh.
With that said, i'm all good now. was able to figure out how to edit Gold, and I found a table that works for the vanilla. so until I buy the game/dlcs on steam (whenever that may be) i'll just work with what I have.
And to the guy calling us "entitled". being annoyed with ONE LITTLE thing does not make someone entitled. You can be unhappy with something while understanding the reason behind it WITHOUT being entitled.
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