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SPOILER ALERT: STUPID ENDINGS
 
cortrell  posted on Mar 12, 2012 6:15:38 AM - Report post

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I would have liked to see the endings a bit different. I would have liked to see a higher chance of Shepard living if the right choices were made. But this wasn't a fluffy rainbows and sunshine story or universe so its not to unexpected. I would have liked to see more Resolution like what happens to the characters, But If the lack of detail was intentional for a DLC, sequel or Expansion Good job on Biowares part (since it keeps you guessing for the most part). Only the Mass gates were definitely destroyed so any other tech might have survived Like the FTL.
The thing that annoyed me the most was the reason for the reapers. Unless I missed something The reason the reapers were killing all advanced organic life was so that organic life wouldn't go to war with Synthetic life. I mean seriously, Synthetic life killing all organic life so Synthetic life wouldn't kill all organic life? IF that's it I feel a bit cheated.

I was happy with the game over, all the game play was good and the story for the most part was solid.

[Edited by cortrell, 3/12/2012 6:34:08 AM]

 
Ghostwolfalpha  posted on Mar 12, 2012 10:54:29 AM - Report post

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On Bioware's forum there was a post theorized that the ending(s) were just Shepard's hallucination, possibly due to the indirect effect of Reaper's indoctrination.

This is NOT a spoiler just a theory though, but a very interesting one.

 
Skyheart  posted on Mar 12, 2012 11:20:36 AM - Report post

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originally posted by Ghostwolfalpha

On Bioware's forum there was a post theorized that the ending(s) were just Shepard's hallucination, possibly due to the indirect effect of Reaper's indoctrination.

This is NOT a spoiler just a theory though, but a very interesting one.

Hmm... I've seen that theory around a lot. Even during ME2 after Project Overlord I believe. But really... if people are upset over the endings as they are now, are they really going to be happy with an "it was all a dream" ending?

I mean, how far back do you take it? The ending sequence was a dream? The events after the Geth server mission were a dream (though you can actually bypass that mission, so not everyone will have had it)? Maybe the entire series has been Shepards dream?

I dunno, I just can't see a lot of people - myself included - being happy with that ending. It's good as a theory, but in practice I think it'll be shunned more than this ending.

 
Kiriai  posted on Mar 12, 2012 11:32:35 AM - Report post

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After very nearly 45 hours of gameplay I finally reached the end last night. I initially chose the Org/Synth Combo ending. The problem that msot everyone is experiencing, put simply, is that after playing a single character through three games they've become emotionally attached to Shep like they would a puppy. And then suddenly you're told no matter what you do that your puppy is dead. That you fed this puppy, played with it, taught it tricks, and made it strong and even still... nothing you can do, puppy is dead.

People are just upset that their character is now dead after so much time and effort invested. (In fairness I understand that one of the endings leaves you alive-ish, but the problem only temporarily abated. Which still isn't a solution.) BioWare like a world-hardened uncaring parent has just said "Oh well, we'll get you another one one day. Maybe soon." and told you to get over it. A good parent at least attempts, on some level, to explain why. After I walked into the beam of light and everything turned green and the whole world became a mix of synthetic-organic life I do want to know at least a little of what happened to the world, what happened to the universe, but barring that I wanna know what happened to the people I care about most. Especially since I collected all the war assets I could manage, played MP to get 100% readiness, and had an effective readiness of just shy of 7,000.

I'm watching from the great bar in the sky, remember? Now IMO I think that for those characters that chose a compatible reproductive companion (ie FemShep and Liara or MaleShep and w/e compatible female he got with), that character should end up pregnant. That alone would have gone a LONG way towards making me happier with the endings provided. Especially after my FemShep forsake her relationship with Garrus, turned down Kaiden, missed a very potentially hot shower with Traynor, all to tell Liara she loved her and wanted to spend her life with her after it was over. The icing on the cake, even if was a crap-cake, could have at least been that Liara was pregnant after and that a part of Shep gets to live on even if she doesn't.

The partial ending that BioWare stuck us with might as well have been a knife through the heart of anyone that got even the slightest bit attached to their character. And that is, I think, what everyone is most upset about. At this point, after three massive games, it's almost like Shepard was a member of the family.

We hoped for more.

TL;DR: Screw you, read it anyways.

 
Ghostwolfalpha  posted on Mar 12, 2012 9:13:10 PM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by Skyheart

quote:
originally posted by Ghostwolfalpha

On Bioware's forum there was a post theorized that the ending(s) were just Shepard's hallucination, possibly due to the indirect effect of Reaper's indoctrination.

This is NOT a spoiler just a theory though, but a very interesting one.

Hmm... I've seen that theory around a lot. Even during ME2 after Project Overlord I believe. But really... if people are upset over the endings as they are now, are they really going to be happy with an "it was all a dream" ending?

I mean, how far back do you take it? The ending sequence was a dream? The events after the Geth server mission were a dream (though you can actually bypass that mission, so not everyone will have had it)? Maybe the entire series has been Shepards dream?

I dunno, I just can't see a lot of people - myself included - being happy with that ending. It's good as a theory, but in practice I think it'll be shunned more than this ending.

The final mission part when:
Spoiler:

Shepard was charging for the beam and got zapped by a Reaper's weapon. If you have high enough military readiness point, after the ending cutscene there is another clip showing a pile of city rubble (back in London on Earth?). Among the rubble there's a N7 dogtag and a part of the chest armor, and suddenly you hear a person wearing that armor gasping for air, sort of makes you wonder if the whole ending scene was just Shepard's dream when he was severely injured.

Here's the link regarding that "hallucination" theory:
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[Edited by Ghostwolfalpha, 3/12/2012 9:15:10 PM]

 
Skyheart  posted on Mar 13, 2012 3:07:23 AM - Report post

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originally posted by Ghostwolfalpha

On Bioware's forum there was a post theorized that the ending(s) were just Shepard's hallucination, possibly due to the indirect effect of Reaper's indoctrination.

This is NOT a spoiler just a theory though, but a very interesting one.

Hmm... I've seen that theory around a lot. Even during ME2 after Project Overlord I believe. But really... if people are upset over the endings as they are now, are they really going to be happy with an "it was all a dream" ending?

I mean, how far back do you take it? The ending sequence was a dream? The events after the Geth server mission were a dream (though you can actually bypass that mission, so not everyone will have had it)? Maybe the entire series has been Shepards dream?

I dunno, I just can't see a lot of people - myself included - being happy with that ending. It's good as a theory, but in practice I think it'll be shunned more than this ending.

The final mission part when:
Spoiler:

Shepard was charging for the beam and got zapped by a Reaper's weapon. If you have high enough military readiness point, after the ending cutscene there is another clip showing a pile of city rubble (back in London on Earth?). Among the rubble there's a N7 dogtag and a part of the chest armor, and suddenly you hear a person wearing that armor gasping for air, sort of makes you wonder if the whole ending scene was just Shepard's dream when he was severely injured.

Here's the link regarding that "hallucination" theory:
Link

[Edited by Ghostwolfalpha, 3/12/2012 9:15:10 PM]

I'll read the spoiler part when I've finished the game, so apologies if you've covered something I'm going to say.

Either way, I'll be severely disappointed if any part of the game turns out be be "just a dream". That's an even worse cop-out than killing everyone is.

I remember when TV shows and books did that. There'd be a whole show or book with all of this action, great stories, great characters, etc etc, and then at the end the main character would wake up. I'm not a fan of things where the main character dies (bar a few exceptions), but that's even worse. It makes everything you've gone through entirely pointless.

I'm curious to know what people think the alternative is though. I mean, if a part of the game was a dream, what was actually happening in reality? Are the Reapers still attacking the Galaxy?

 
Lizml86  posted on Mar 13, 2012 3:36:15 AM - Report post

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I think the dream theory is people grasping at some sort of hope. The person who came up with the theory, says that they thought it might be, because of some effects, the little boy, and finally they claim the endings felt "out of place" and not in-par with ME universe. Also the dream sequences Shep experiences.

If I find the thread, I'll link you to it once you finish the game.

Edit:

A lot of IGN members are ****ed off at one of their contributors who made a video, basically flaming people who are on the different ending campaign. I'm not really surprised, IGN is owned by Rupert Murdoch, same as Fox news, and they are not exactly known for a "fair" approach...
Just thought that was funny.

[Edited by Lizml86, 3/13/2012 4:14:24 AM]

 
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quote:
originally posted by Lizml86

I think the dream theory is people grasping at some sort of hope. The person who came up with the theory, says that they thought it might be, because of some effects, the little boy, and finally they claim the endings felt "out of place" and not in-par with ME universe. Also the dream sequences Shep experiences.

If I find the thread, I'll link you to it once you finish the game.

Thanks, I'd appreciate that.

I'll also check out the link you posted, Ghostwolfalpha, when I finish too.

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