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PWizard  posted on Dec 23, 2008 9:28:35 AM - Report post

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Empire -- Actually we can and HAVE proved that Psych cracked and uploaded our trainers. Did you not read the part where we identified each cracked trainer with a unique embedded code that is attached to Psych's Unlimited account? The server logs were merely backup proof of what took place. I'm not going to disclose to you the exact location within the files where this identifying information is stored as people like Psych will use it against us to try and crack more of our trainers.

How do you think I identified the source of these cracked trainers? Pulled it out of thin air? I didn't even know the person that cracked these trainers was Psych until I contacted PayPal and received the information back from them and from him. If you don't believe we have the means to do this, you're welcome to obtain a secret Unlimited account of your own, attempt to remove the identifying information from a downloaded trainer and email it to me. I will be happy to provide you with the account it is attached to.

So, to sum up AGAIN:

1. Psych purchases secret Unlimited account.
2. Psych downloads 10 UNL trainers on Nov 16th.
3. The same exact 10 UNL trainers end up CRACKED on USENET on Nov 17th.
4. Each of these 10 trainers contain embedded code matching Psych's secret UNL account on our website.
5. The IP addresses used to download these 10 trainers match those used by Psych so we know the account was not hijacked.

[Edited by PWizard, 12/23/2008 9:37:21 AM]

 
EMPiRE-GCW  posted on Dec 23, 2008 9:35:25 AM - Report post

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If it means anything, (I suppose it will too some, because it seemed to spark the whole issue), Psych fairly promptly re-submitted his release with that whole comment removed. At least on GCW anyway.
 
zirkhaki  posted on Dec 23, 2008 9:44:15 AM - Report post

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ok now that's better
Check if he has deleted it in RADiANCE.

If he deleted it, it means he has accepted some facts and I think no complaint should be made, more, unless he, Psych, has anything left to say

 
PWizard  posted on Dec 23, 2008 9:45:43 AM - Report post

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I just re-downloaded the trainer from GCW and it still has the original statements in it.
 
EMPiRE-GCW  posted on Dec 23, 2008 9:52:52 AM - Report post

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Give the server time to update. It will be later on today when it takes effect. I did actually check that one myself, and it all seemed Ok. I'll make doubly-sure about it shortly. What I have done as well (because if I can help resolve a deal like this I will) is contact Psych at his email about it, just to see what has been done about it elsewhere. If I receive any response, I will PM you with details PWizard, rather than on the open forums, i'm sure you can appreciate that. I wouldn't dwell upon all too much guys. Go have a good Xmas, leave any potential grief in the wake of 2008!
 
[eXtreme]  posted on Dec 23, 2008 10:12:16 AM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by PWizard

Empire -- Actually we can and HAVE proved that Psych cracked and uploaded our trainers. Did you not read the part where we identified each cracked trainer with a unique embedded code that is attached to Psych's Unlimited account? The server logs were merely backup proof of what took place. I'm not going to disclose to you the exact location within the files where this identifying information is stored as people like Psych will use it against us to try and crack more of our trainers.

How do you think I identified the source of these cracked trainers? Pulled it out of thin air? I didn't even know the person that cracked these trainers was Psych until I contacted PayPal and received the information back from them and from him. If you don't believe we have the means to do this, you're welcome to obtain a secret Unlimited account of your own, attempt to remove the identifying information from a downloaded trainer and email it to me. I will be happy to provide you with the account it is attached to.

So, to sum up AGAIN:

1. Psych purchases secret Unlimited account.
2. Psych downloads 10 UNL trainers on Nov 16th.
3. The same exact 10 UNL trainers end up CRACKED on USENET on Nov 17th.
4. Each of these 10 trainers contain embedded code matching Psych's secret UNL account on our website.
5. The IP addresses used to download these 10 trainers match those used by Psych so we know the account was not hijacked.

[Edited by PWizard, 12/23/2008 9:37:21 AM]

PWizard why you deleting my post?instead deleting please answer to it.
i need prove for these:

"So, Team Radiance, is this what you want your legacy to be? Ripping and cracking other people's trainers and code? if so, then Bravo. That's one talented group you have there."

 
zirkhaki  posted on Dec 23, 2008 10:40:33 AM - Report post

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I think your answer is clear. If Psych wrote those statements. So he shoud bring his proofs. If he tell to CHU that he was wrong and has no proof then as Pwiz said you can get the proofs. eEven more than proofs like as he said you can make an unlimited account secretly and download a trainer then change it's identifier parts and after that send it to Pwiz and he will say that from whom is that trainer.

so that's the story:
1-Someone made an account secretly
2-download some trainer with that account
3-crack them and puuted them on the web
4-Pwiz found them and check them, so found the unlimited member who downloaded them
5-compared the unlimited member IP with the IP of the guy who cracked them. and find that both of them are same.
6-contact with that unlimited member via email and suprisingly Psych answered! but why? The ip of the Unlimited member and the cracker were the same and hear Psych appears.
7-who else could be this unknown cracker

[Edited by zirkhaki, 12/23/2008 10:42:48 AM]

 
[eXtreme]  posted on Dec 23, 2008 10:55:13 AM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by zirkhaki

I think your answer is clear. If Psych wrote those statements. So he shoud bring his proofs. If he tell to CHU that he was wrong and has no proof then as Pwiz said you can get the proofs. eEven more than proofs like as he said you can make an unlimited account secretly and download a trainer then change it's identifier parts and after that send it to Pwiz and he will say that from whom is that trainer.

so that's the story:
1-Someone made an account secretly
2-download some trainer with that account
3-crack them and puuted them on the web
4-Pwiz found them and check them, so found the unlimited member who downloaded them
5-compared the unlimited member IP with the IP of the guy who cracked them. and find that both of them are same.
6-contact with that unlimited member via email and suprisingly Psych answered! but why? The ip of the Unlimited member and the cracker were the same and hear Psych appears.
7-who else could be this unknown cracker

[Edited by zirkhaki, 12/23/2008 10:42:48 AM]

no it's not clear yet.he saying these words to the rest of RADiANCE not just one person.
i need prove for the words PWizard said in the first post of this thread.
i mean this words:

"So, Team Radiance, is this what you want your legacy to be? Ripping and cracking other people's trainers and code? if so, then Bravo. That's one talented group you have there."

PS:zirkhaki your name is so familiar to me.
PS2:تو ایرانی هستی؟

[Edited by [eXtreme], 12/23/2008 11:01:23 AM]

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