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Just some quick advice.

It doesn't matter how many trainers or updates you release per month if they all have only 1 or 2 options. Same thing with your trainers. Naming the same option 5 different things does not make it a +5 trainer (+5 health, +10 health, +20 health, +30 health, +40 health, etc). Come on guys, did you not learn anything from h4x0r or did you simply follow in his footsteps?

Also, yes, you may have earned some funding, but so did we and we didn't get it from Angel Investors and give up a percentage of our company or to people that we will eventually have to share our income with. Our users VOLUNTARILY gave their contributions, over $100 per user on average, to our recent Kickstarter campaign where we raised 3818% over our goal in just a short time frame. See my personal comment for more details (Link).

Lastly, while you're livestreaming yourselves eating turkey for the holidays, we are busy giving BACK to our community through our annual Day of Giving PLUS Second Chance drawing where we gave away over $45,000 in prizes, this is on top of the HUNDREDS of dollars of prizes we give away every single day of the year through our RC store (Link) and Prize Wheel (Link) including PayPal cash, Free Games from Humble Bundle, Shirts/Hoodies, etc. Do you give any cash back to your users on a regular basis or just keep it all for yourselves and your investors?

That's all for now as we're busy making what an All-in-One app should be so that you will have one more thing to copy.

Sorry, just had to get that off my chest after reading some recent comments made about our little operation here, which despite our "competition", continues to be the #1 cheat and trainer site on the Internet. It's for a reason guys. Original ideas. You should try it.

BTW WeMod -- Nice job copying EXACTLY our upcoming AIO design, thanks for backing our Kickstarter project. So SAD...

PWiz Out 💛

[Edited by PWizard, 1/6/2022 4:00:00 AM]

hear hear PW. Also noticed the other place being followers...while still pulling that bs excuse that caliber has "stolen" from them.

They deleted my post when I (in a non negative way even!) mentioned that we must have lit a fire under their asses cause it seems like everyone is coming out with an AIO now.

the place you mention is trash, they have trash game support, their updates are awful, and tying clicking to a paywall is the weirdest thing i've ever heard of for a "premium feature"

We are the happy few that stand with ya PWizard

When I first discovered trainers (I've been playing PC games since late 2009 and in that whole time I thought I could only cheat with the command console in certain games) I only knew about "WeM". I only became aware of CH recently through a comment on the other site's forums. I'm glad I did. I never liked the whole paywall on the other site. The main selling point for me when it came to CH was you Lifetime membership option. I bought it as soon as I could and I don't regret it. You and the rest of the CH staff are doing great work. Also, Aurora is far better than what "WeM" provides.

[Edited by AbyssalSeaweed, 2/1/2022 9:04:02 AM]

[Edited by AbyssalSeaweed, 2/1/2022 9:04:39 AM]

Hehe, Chris I could actually hear you dropping the mic in the end...😂

Wow @AbyssalSeaweed, that is awesome and thank you for both your awesome support of our site but for also sharing that awesome story with us. We do our very best to try and stay on top of the trends and things that you guys want the most. With Aurora, even our first BETA product outshines *VERSION 8* of theirs. That's pretty darn awful and a shame that people still pay for that trash.

Well, we welcome you to the site with open arms and thank you once again for your support and by also helping us to test and improve Aurora with user-based requests and feedback to shape the app into something you guys want to use on a daily basis to better interact with our site and our trainers.

To be fair, I have found WM to be a great "addition" to CH. Sometimes the same "cheat" works differently and integrating them together usually works like a charm.

That said, I joined CH 10 years ago (or will be 10 years next month) and I have never regretted it. I still remember the first game I used with Cheat Happens (Mass Effect 3) and CH has never me let me down. Your team is light years ahead of WM in terms of release time, number of cheats, quality of product (Aurora vs WM app) and support. Don't even get me started on their "bump" system for trainers. As for their "premium" service--I joined it for a while and dropped it after a few months. In my opinion, it is just not worth it. What I can say is that they tend to have (or steal) good ideas. They just royally fail half the time at implementing them.

So in short, WM is a great sidekick to CH (like Robin to Batman). For those like me that enjoy it at times, it serves a purpose. But when it comes to day 1 releases and trainers that mostly work, CH is definitely the leader. And with the way WM runs things, they seem content to let it to remain that way.

[Edited by Ace of Spades, 2/1/2022 3:19:56 PM]

@Ace of Spades - That's a very interesting way of looking at things but to be honest, they have STOLEN every single idea we have ever had. They have tried so hard to beat us that they resorted to BEING us, except in a epic failure kind of way. It's sad really. But thanks for sharing your honest opinion and story.