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  Halo 3 ODST Trainer
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    Caliber posted on Sep 22, 2020 2:34:20 PM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by Aaron36CF

    I've just reported that the trainer is not allowing us to work towards or even view challenges or unlock achievements.

    The game uses EAC. If EAC is disabled then the trainer cannot attach to it. So the launcher or the method described allows you to run the game without EAC. However, in the non Beta, full release version of this game, if no EAC is present, the game does not check for nor fire off achievements. This is nothing new.

    You can try this:

    github.com/gibbed/SteamAchievementManager/releases/tag/7.0.25

    The trainer comes with two files that explicitly explain this and already explain that the game won't have achievements if EAC isn't running. The trainer has nothing to do with this.

    best,
    Cal

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    www.cheathappens.com
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    Asoilum posted on Sep 22, 2020 2:53:07 PM - Report post
     
    So for clarification, if we use the mcclauncher exe provided in the downloaded zip, we wont get achievements anyway?
    Because they updated their EAC?
    I dont understand this, sorry :< achievement progress always worked until today like the mod launcher does not do anything tho it has now 81 kbyte instead of 80 kybte lol
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    Fenix66d posted on Sep 22, 2020 3:08:12 PM - Report post
     
    Cal , not to be a "smart ass", but all the Halo MCC trainers issued up to now have been able to overcome this issue by using the CH modified Halo MCC Launcher. All of us were able to activate the achievements we earned on Steam and in-game career stats, and use the in-game Challenge Hub. I was always able to launch the game with EAC active by right clicking on Play and selecting the first choice "Play Halo: The Master Chief Collection. Now your stating we can no longer obtain achievements using the launcher? What's changed?
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    Caliber posted on Sep 22, 2020 4:20:39 PM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by Fenix66d

    Cal , not to be a "smart ass", but all the Halo MCC trainers issued up to now have been able to overcome this issue by using the CH modified Halo MCC Launcher. All of us were able to activate the achievements we earned on Steam and in-game career stats, and use the in-game Challenge Hub. I was always able to launch the game with EAC active by right clicking on Play and selecting the first choice "Play Halo: The Master Chief Collection. Now your stating we can no longer obtain achievements using the launcher? What's changed?

    "CH modified Halo MCC Launcher"

    the same launcher is in the trainer.

    That launcher is working no differently.

    "What changed" is a better question for the developers, not me.

    I hate when WE get smashed with angry people who are blaming us for anti cheats, and anti achievements measures taken by the DEVELOPERS, as if this is somehow OUR FAULT.

    Maybe there are achievements with Halo 3 ODST that have to do with online gameplay and they linked it to online functions, which are only active if you have EAC active. I don't plan to spend all day reversing this to find out, only to be able to repeat what I already wrote in previous trainers, and is already included in the .txt files with the trainer. NO EAC means NO ACHIEVEMENTS may be a reality. Go yell at Microsoft.

    "Now your stating we can no longer obtain achievements using the launcher? "<- I am stating that the developers no longer want you to have achievements if you plan to use trainers with their game.

    There is an achievements editor for steam, if you want to look at it. Likely the Gamepass version, this no achievements thing has been the reality for them since the game series inception.

    All of this is due to people abusing leaderboards, cheating online, and hacking games in ways that cost the developers money, or cause gameplay in multiplayer environments in games past, and in previous games in this series as well. Folks who did this ruin it for everyone, and they have nobody but themselves to blame for the current state of DRM, anticheats, and all this stuff we have to deal with just to play video games, which aren't even REAL.

    Please don't assume, also, that developers don't patch things, don't update away things, don't add more protections, don't decide to not allow something, and on and on. Being able to do this or that in the past is no guarantee for the future.

    If some other person has made some sort of code to allow auto trigger of achievements no matter what, then so be it. We are trying to avoid a lot of "publicity" in the game world "getting around things" because that is how trainers get banned and we get sued (go look up Marvel Avengers).

    Sorry to sound so angry, but you would think this inability to have achievements is something the TRAINER did. It's touched not ONE PIECE OF CODE that blocks or prevents achievements. People are lucky there are ways to run the games WITHOUT EAC, period. Otherwise there would be no ability to use a trainer at all.

    best,
    Cal

    Trainer Creator
    www.cheathappens.com
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    Aaron36CF posted on Sep 22, 2020 4:25:29 PM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by Caliber

    quote:
    originally posted by Fenix66d

    Cal , not to be a "smart ass", but all the Halo MCC trainers issued up to now have been able to overcome this issue by using the CH modified Halo MCC Launcher. All of us were able to activate the achievements we earned on Steam and in-game career stats, and use the in-game Challenge Hub. I was always able to launch the game with EAC active by right clicking on Play and selecting the first choice "Play Halo: The Master Chief Collection. Now your stating we can no longer obtain achievements using the launcher? What's changed?

    "CH modified Halo MCC Launcher"

    the same launcher is in the trainer.

    That launcher is working no differently.

    "What changed" is a better question for the developers, not me.

    I hate when WE get smashed with angry people who are blaming us for anti cheats, and anti achievements measures taken by the DEVELOPERS, as if this is somehow OUR FAULT.

    Maybe there are achievements with Halo 3 ODST that have to do with online gameplay and they linked it to online functions, which are only active if you have EAC active. I don't plan to spend all day reversing this to find out, only to be able to repeat what I already wrote in previous trainers, and is already included in the .txt files with the trainer. NO EAC means NO ACHIEVEMENTS may be a reality. Go yell at Microsoft.

    "Now your stating we can no longer obtain achievements using the launcher? "<- I am stating that the developers no longer want you to have achievements if you plan to use trainers with their game.

    There is an achievements editor for steam, if you want to look at it. Likely the Gamepass version, this no achievements thing has been the reality for them since the game series inception.

    All of this is due to people abusing leaderboards, cheating online, and hacking games in ways that cost the developers money, or cause gameplay in multiplayer environments in games past, and in previous games in this series as well. Folks who did this ruin it for everyone, and they have nobody but themselves to blame for the current state of DRM, anticheats, and all this stuff we have to deal with just to play video games, which aren't even REAL.

    Please don't assume, also, that developers don't patch things, don't update away things, don't add more protections, don't decide to not allow something, and on and on. Being able to do this or that in the past is no guarantee for the future.

    If some other person has made some sort of code to allow auto trigger of achievements no matter what, then so be it. We are trying to avoid a lot of "publicity" in the game world "getting around things" because that is how trainers get banned and we get sued (go look up Marvel Avengers).

    Sorry to sound so angry, but you would think this inability to have achievements is something the TRAINER did. It's touched not ONE PIECE OF CODE that blocks or prevents achievements. People are lucky there are ways to run the games WITHOUT EAC, period. Otherwise there would be no ability to use a trainer at all.

    best,
    Cal

    Fair enough but I think you're being a bit unreasonable. Nobody's getting angry. We were just enquiring...

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    MasaShake posted on Sep 22, 2020 5:09:30 PM - Report post
     
    Looks like I'll be saving ten dollars since I was going to buy the steam version for the ability to unlock Xbox achievements(already own the Xbox version). Hopefully this is isnt to much of a problem in future games.
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    Warlord Sieck posted on Sep 22, 2020 5:12:54 PM - Report post
     
    We are not angry nor do we blame you or your trainer at all, Caliber. We are simply enquiring about the launcher because 343 most likely have put some measure in place with the latest update to detect and restrict one's access to earning achievements/progressing challenges if one is using a modified launcher.

    [Edited by Warlord Sieck, 9/22/2020 5:13:59 PM]
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