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Taurusplopp  posted on Aug 04, 2017 7:55:56 AM - Report post

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originally posted by Johnito

I prefer not to exchange with Microsoft about this. But @PWizard if you need to verify something, i have teamviewer installed and can grant you accesss right now (i'll be online for the next few hours). You just have to PM me and request my codes, the time for me to switch to english and you're in.

[Edited by Johnito, 8/4/2017 7:45:15 AM]

This is a Microsoft issue and nothing on our side we can fix easily as this would mean to change the code of a vast amount of older trainers.

Please let Microsoft know.

 
Johnito  posted on Aug 04, 2017 8:21:30 AM - Report post

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Actually, i did. i sent a report just before rolling back to previous insider build (it takes like 3 minutes to roll back).

But my little finger tells me that if Microsoft happens to implement this change to all windows 10 users in the future, CH will have to change their older authentification method anyway (fair or not). I doubt Microsoft give a rat's derriere about workability of what is probably considered like malware/unsafe software to their eyes.

[Edited by Johnito, 8/4/2017 8:27:52 AM]

 
Neo7  posted on Aug 04, 2017 3:10:46 PM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by Johnito

I prefer not to exchange with Microsoft about this. But @PWizard if you need to verify something, i have teamviewer installed and can grant you accesss right now (i'll be online for the next few hours). You just have to PM me and request my codes, the time for me to switch to english and you're in.

[Edited by Johnito, 8/4/2017 7:45:15 AM]

Create the feedback in the Feedback Hub and link it here anyway so that other Insiders can up vote it.

 
SpanishMoss  posted on Aug 05, 2017 11:56:14 AM - Report post

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I made a "category" for this I guess in the feedback hub. title "Cheathappens trainers broken."
Search for it and up-vote it, I submitted a screen shot and let them capture data for the issue. I'm not sure how else to "link" it here with a URL, I don't see an option like that but let me know if theres anything else I can do with that feedback.
 
SpanishMoss  posted on Aug 05, 2017 1:53:55 PM - Report post

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I rolled back to winver 1703 build 16232.1 and the problem went away even using the exact same trainer files. So I can confirm the problem is with the windows build being planned to release. Anyone who is tracking this thread hit windows + F to bring up the feed back hub and search for the feedback category "cheathappens" and just give it a upvote so windows knows that its not just a single user with this problem.
 
CSalvation  posted on Aug 05, 2017 8:45:46 PM - Report post

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With the way trainers work, MS won't fix the issue, they've updated more in the OS than just certain bits of code, so unfortunately reporting the issue won't do much, if the code has changed for a reason they won't roll it back and risk breaking other features/programs that have been updated.

Hopefully PW got some good info on what's happening from probing my system and can figure an easy way around it without having to mass-recode the older trainers (something inbuilt to the Trainer Manager perhaps?)

 
neosephiroth  posted on Aug 05, 2017 9:54:08 PM - Report post

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originally posted by SpanishMoss

I made a "category" for this I guess in the feedback hub. title "Cheathappens trainers broken."
Search for it and up-vote it, I submitted a screen shot and let them capture data for the issue. I'm not sure how else to "link" it here with a URL, I don't see an option like that but let me know if theres anything else I can do with that feedback.

Here is a link to it: Link

*My first CH post! yay~*

 
PWizard  posted on Aug 06, 2017 6:49:01 AM - Report post

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originally posted by CSalvation

With the way trainers work, MS won't fix the issue, they've updated more in the OS than just certain bits of code, so unfortunately reporting the issue won't do much, if the code has changed for a reason they won't roll it back and risk breaking other features/programs that have been updated.

Hopefully PW got some good info on what's happening from probing my system and can figure an easy way around it without having to mass-recode the older trainers (something inbuilt to the Trainer Manager perhaps?)

This is not entirely true. We faced a similar issue with the Windows 10 Anniversary update where the new Windows Defender was blocking a large number of our trainers for no reason and without notifying the end user. After many users submitted reports to Microsoft along with us reaching out to them, they fixed the issue. Our trainer authentication is a simple API call that has existed since Windows 95. If their latest build broke our authentication then it likely broke many other applications that use the same API calls. So, I recommend that anyone with this issue please do report it to Microsoft.

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