I was not saying the demo or the game will not force you to use origin. I stated that the sims three dose not force you to use Origin. Since I have that game.
Please read properly before you respond.
[Edited by ServiusTheBear, 2/14/2012 4:21:04 PM]
We're in a thread about ME3 - you used The Sims 3 as an example, I used BF3/KoA as examples, I was not disputing that game's usage of Origin. Though I would probably contest the theory of gravity if DAbhand proposed it, or if someone came to his support over it, his bones with Valve/Steam and quasi-defense of Origin from the getgo have always struck a nerve with me. I've had an account with them since before the EADM days, so they easily pulled a EULA kansas city shuffle when Origin (itself basically a rehash of EADM no matter how you look at it) launched and invalidated the CD keys of games I'd purchased through it, so I'm biased like that.
I was not saying the demo or the game will not force you to use origin. I stated that the sims three dose not force you to use Origin. Since I have that game.
Please read properly before you respond.
[Edited by ServiusTheBear, 2/14/2012 4:21:04 PM]
We're in a thread about ME3 - you used The Sims 3 as an example, I used BF3/KoA as examples, I was not disputing that game's usage of Origin. Though I would probably contest the theory of gravity if DAbhand proposed it, or if someone came to his support over it, his bones with Valve/Steam and quasi-defense of Origin from the getgo have always struck a nerve with me. I've had an account with them since before the EADM days, so they easily pulled a EULA kansas city shuffle when Origin (itself basically a rehash of EADM no matter how you look at it) launched and invalidated the CD keys of games I'd purchased through it, so I'm biased like that.
Think his point is not all EA games require you to use Origin, so we might not need to use origin as the launch engine we just dont know for sure yet.
Alot of people said Swtor needed origin to play but that is not the case but you can launch it through Origin same goes for ME2 after they removed it from steam, true there are some games that require Origin BF3 and some newer games but not all of them require Origin to be active when you launch the games.
And i still dont get peoples problem with Origin i have not had any big issues with that service compared to AV issues with Steam from time to time, compared to how new there Origin system is it's quite few issues i have had with it.
And if you are a legit player who does not download games from torrent sites there so called surveillance software is not an issue for the legit user, people are paranoid when ever they hear security and surveillance and feel like it is targeted directly at there person.
I was not saying the demo or the game will not force you to use origin. I stated that the sims three dose not force you to use Origin. Since I have that game.
Please read properly before you respond.
[Edited by ServiusTheBear, 2/14/2012 4:21:04 PM]
We're in a thread about ME3 - you used The Sims 3 as an example, I used BF3/KoA as examples, I was not disputing that game's usage of Origin. Though I would probably contest the theory of gravity if DAbhand proposed it, or if someone came to his support over it, his bones with Valve/Steam and quasi-defense of Origin from the getgo have always struck a nerve with me. I've had an account with them since before the EADM days, so they easily pulled a EULA kansas city shuffle when Origin (itself basically a rehash of EADM no matter how you look at it) launched and invalidated the CD keys of games I'd purchased through it, so I'm biased like that.
Think his point is not all EA games require you to use Origin, so we might not need to use origin as the launch engine we just dont know for sure yet.
Alot of people said Swtor needed origin to play but that is not the case but you can launch it through Origin same goes for ME2 after they removed it from steam, true there are some games that require Origin BF3 and some newer games but not all of them require Origin to be active when you launch the games.
And i still dont get peoples problem with Origin i have not had any big issues with that service compared to AV issues with Steam from time to time, compared to how new there Origin system is it's quite few issues i have had with it.
And if you are a legit player who does not download games from torrent sites there so called surveillance software is not an issue for the legit user, people are paranoid when ever they hear security and surveillance and feel like it is targeted directly at there person.
The demo requires Origin to launch so that it can run, and EA is generally moving towards pushing most of their games as Origin titles, so I don't think it's a stretch.
The issues a "legit player" would have before they reworded their EULA are a bit more than just "paranoid." When a program on your computer is indeed monitoring what other programs are installed and/or running, (similar to Blizzard's Warden) it is disconcerting and annoying at the very least. If the company is willing to ignore your privacy so that they can offer you specific stuff to buy, you don't know if they will flat out start selling your information off or digging deeper into your files at some point in the future. Unless you're running your browser in incognito/private browsing mode most of them still have some type of form saving even when you have it turned off, so it's a "clear and present danger," so to speak.
That's not to say they actually will do it or consider it, but a lot of companies these days care nothing for their customers, only their money.
I was not saying the demo or the game will not force you to use origin. I stated that the sims three dose not force you to use Origin. Since I have that game.
Please read properly before you respond.
[Edited by ServiusTheBear, 2/14/2012 4:21:04 PM]
We're in a thread about ME3 - you used The Sims 3 as an example, I used BF3/KoA as examples, I was not disputing that game's usage of Origin. Though I would probably contest the theory of gravity if DAbhand proposed it, or if someone came to his support over it, his bones with Valve/Steam and quasi-defense of Origin from the getgo have always struck a nerve with me. I've had an account with them since before the EADM days, so they easily pulled a EULA kansas city shuffle when Origin (itself basically a rehash of EADM no matter how you look at it) launched and invalidated the CD keys of games I'd purchased through it, so I'm biased like that.
Think his point is not all EA games require you to use Origin, so we might not need to use origin as the launch engine we just dont know for sure yet.
Alot of people said Swtor needed origin to play but that is not the case but you can launch it through Origin same goes for ME2 after they removed it from steam, true there are some games that require Origin BF3 and some newer games but not all of them require Origin to be active when you launch the games.
And i still dont get peoples problem with Origin i have not had any big issues with that service compared to AV issues with Steam from time to time, compared to how new there Origin system is it's quite few issues i have had with it.
And if you are a legit player who does not download games from torrent sites there so called surveillance software is not an issue for the legit user, people are paranoid when ever they hear security and surveillance and feel like it is targeted directly at there person.
Flawed argument. "Legit" players have plenty of worries and concerns with DRM and DDM. I haven't pirated a game since my early teens, but I have huge issues with both EA and Origin. Least of all the program itself is complete junk.
Just like people who buy all of their games but don't like Valve or Steam.
And Origin is required to play ME3. That's been confirmed. Even if you add the shortcut to Steam and run it through there, you'll still need Origin running in the background. If it's not running, it'll launch when you try to play the game.
Directly from BioWare:
1) Will Origin be a requirement to play all versions of Mass Effect 3? (Digital and/or from a retail brick and mortar store)
Yes, Origin is required for all PC editions of Mass Effect 3, physical or digital.
[Edited by Skyheart, 2/15/2012 3:07:53 AM]
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