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What's been evaluating in US was/is the transforming or as a milder word the tendencies toward socialism and common welfare which US needs now.
Republicans couldn't follow such idea, Capital economy and Policy based-on-market couldn't hinge over such, Democrats took it for granted and an opposing force always promised a better life by steps toward common wealth and social equilibrium.

Now can i cal it Authoritarianism i don't know? But sure they are many false and propaganda against them.
Actually Capital based policy has no place for socialist derivations, so empty-hand they have to answer some solutions for US tax-payers.

That's harsh!

hmmm yes

US bears a fear of Communism since Cold War. It hasn't healed yet. Because since the widespread Marxist idea in Latin America and Independece war in Congo and Namibia and the final phase by Mandala, subtitution with communism for US cronysm was apparent. Cuba was/is a living example.
Late sixties Che Executed by Bolivian whom had help-direct help-from US military and consultants, another mistake for US image.
Few years after protecting Israel against Arab and Over throwing Musadeq in Iran.

So all these events mixed with a "Red Star Fear" which is no longer a feed for public but politicians are also touched by it.

@Foxxy: Suffice it to say that the last time the US had a party with a conservative platform was the election of 1860.

There is nothing "conservative" about the Republican party, GW Bush, Rush Limbaugh, mainstream religion, or anything else you rail against.

Maybe you should, like the vast majority of Americans, learn what conservatism is before you talk about it.

The Republicans espouse and follow Locke, Smith, Kant, even the Utilitarians like Bentham. Democrats espouse and follow Marx, TH Green, the Social Darwinists and the early Fascists.

No Conservatism in the bunch. Just Liberalism and further left into Fascism (No, Fascism is not born from Conservatism, it's born from Socialism; your public school brainwashing was wrong).

Conservatism, derived from hard or ultra right positions which usually are based on ideological pilots, so we can assume that conservatism could be based on mainstream religion but what's happening on US Republican Party is totally hard lines liberals who backboned by free-market base policies.
They are not Conservative tendencies, they are "pushed" hard lined Liberals based on Free Market Capital Economy.

Dhampy said a bit harsh. But it was right.

Thanks for the history lesson, irrelevant as it is. America at any rate would be better of bombing political hotspots and rallying against the tyrants that are in office regardless of if they're socialist or fascist. There's no more inbetween in America, there's just "**** those who can't help themselves" and "**** ourselves to help those too stupid to realize how good they already have it". Either way, we're royally screwed.

Meh, if America gets another set of bombs/planes dropped on its head, it's well deserved and Darwin will just laugh.

The gene pool is so polluted by the Southern inbred rednecks and their precious G.W. Bush, McCain, etc. (I don't care if they really are inbred rednecks, they support a system that only a fascist or a retard could support) and the socialist Wanna-be-Commies types that a good old fashioned riot/purge is in order. They're the modern equivalent of Great Britain during colonial times. American People aren't being represented, just the rich and powerful. It's only natural that the ones who haven't been brainwashed try to stamp out this government and put things back on track.

There's a cycle I'm reminded of.

Slavery>Struggle>Victory>Freedom>Power>Complacency>Slavery is how I think it goes.

Basically we were enslaved by the British, struggled for freedom, emerged from the war Victorious, earned our Freedom, rose to Power, became lazy/complacent, and now we're being enslaved by our own government yet again, only this time to struggle for our freedom we'll have to turn on our former countrymen (I say former because the political powers that be are not America, but rather Pseudo-American socialist and fascist dictators with no interest in preserving the people's economic and physical well-being). Our president put more effort into a Global Climate Change meeting than disarming/preemptively striking at Iran/North Korea. He'll be crying about that decision when the U.S./Israel get nuked and millions of innocent people die in a flash of light, and millions more due to the fallout. Oh, wait, no he won't, he'll be snugly settled in a bomb shelter waiting for the final death toll and practicing his "My heart goes out to the families of those killed blah blah" bull speech.

Some say America is dying. My friends, it's pretty much already flatlined.

Bush is from New Hampshire.

Edit- Or is it Connecticut? Anyway, the Bush family has been instrumental in the continued existence of the US and the advancement of Liberalism.

Edit2- Your problem, it seems, is that you're lashing out at everything without having any clue as to why.

[Edited by Dhampy, 12/22/2009 4:28:03 PM]

Foxxie I'm not an American if it's needed to be right now for this topic but American people as mass aren't being represented yes, US political system is a combination of Oligarchy and Liberal Democracy.
Financial Lobbies enjoy significant influence in congress and independent senators try to gain attention from Lobbies ti sustain in power.
This is the outcome of Free Market based Capital policy, yet it's far from Conservatism, there's no ideology but liberty!

But the performance of Obama is questionable, Our regime is playing mice and cat with whole world on Nuclear plants but North Korea is facing mano-to-mano, Obama's status is similar to both, is it right?! I don;t know only analysis based upon enough intelligence can/could provide correct assessment and i don't have such capability.

US policy in global right now is under spotlight and almost whole world is waiting for a step to call it a dance so like wise it needs for attention and higher priority from white house, if you say that has costs less interest to public(US)welfare then i'd say:i doubt it.

As a Supreme power in an almost mono-pole order these days-some say China is breaking this order-US have to participate in international crisis but summits like climate problems and global warming is something more of a politically gesture than practicality.

The economically damaged society no matter Autocrat or Democrat always makes common and public irritated and critic to Government, and as Locke said in a Democracy people have the right to confront politicians thus as a US citizen you are not Happy on what's going on and you have the RIGHT to be,.