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    Darkish posted on Mar 28, 2009 10:51:08 AM - Report post
     
    That's not the purpose of Earth Hour.

    And electricity is not a luxury. Just because some in the world are not fortunate enough to have electricity, does not mean it is not a luxury to us. This is because we were born with electricity in our world. We grew up around it, it is part of our lives.

    We look at the poor in Africa and wonder how they can live like that. Well, that is what they were born in, what they grew up around, it is normal for them. Someone like you and I, probably couldn't live in an environment such as that.

    The purpose of Earth Hour is to get people aware of the falsity that electricity and man-made products are causing global warming.
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    Chingy-X posted on Mar 28, 2009 10:58:54 AM - Report post
     
    quote:
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    And electricity is not a luxury. Just because some in the world are not fortunate enough to have electricity, does not mean it is not a luxury to us. This is because we were born with electricity in our world. We grew up around it, it is part of our lives.

    Somehow, I seriously doubt we can't survive without electricity. We grew up around it, yes. It's a part of our lives, yes. Does this mean we cannot part from it? No.

    Poor Africans live like that because there are no resources from them. I don't claim to know the extent of their poverty and know what's what on a daily basis, but intelligence is the cure for ignorance. It might take a bit of research etc to understand how/what they live through, but many know how they live like that, and if we can do something to help them we should.

    Even if it is just remembrance that we are very lucky. That we were fortunate enough to be born with luxuries like electricity, clean water, shelter, regular food intakes and so on. Electricity is a luxury because we can do without it, and because we choose to live with it.

    If electricity was so embedded into our lives that we cannot abstain/avoid it, how would you explain the growing Amish community?

     
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    zorrodude posted on Mar 28, 2009 11:08:40 AM - Report post
     
    Personally I'm excited for it. A city in darkness, seems peaceful.
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    Dhampy posted on Mar 28, 2009 11:30:42 AM - Report post
     
    quote:
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    No. The electricity is still being produced--the coal still being burned.

    What is a greater evil: burning coal to people can use electricity or burning coal and having no one use the electricity?

    Plus, I can't be bothered to relight the pilot lights in the furnace and water heater which will be extinguished when the automatic shutoff valve on the gas pipes is triggered by the loss of electricity.

    You're missing the point, it's about increasing awareness. Awareness about the fact that we don't need electricity running all the time - it's not a necessity, but a luxury. And if we can spare just a single hour of our lives a year to make do without them, then we will have reminded ourselves just how lucky we are.

    To not do it is entirely your choice, but it does suggest a bit of arrogance/ignorance on your part.

    I just did it, I'm surprised how quickly the hour went by. I started painting this collection of auras, really simple, but I ended up losing myself in the painting, and the time just flew by. It's quite something, we don't need electronics to entertain us all the time.

    Earth Hour is about raising awareness about climate change, not about electricity being a luxury. Awareness about global warming.

    And to wit, for those people who live in regions powered by the burning of fossil fuels to participate is counterproductive. Power plants produce electricity based on the average forecasted need. They don't stop producing power just because people switch their lights off. They'll be producing power that will not be used by their service areas--that coal or oil or natural gas will be burned for no reason, CO2 released for no reason--producing greenhouse gasses and promoting global warming for no reason.

    Everyone with sense already controls their electrical usage--because it's expensive. If environmentalists really had any clue about how humans think, they would find a way to attack people's wallets--grand and inane gestures only make people turn against them.

    In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us, 'Make us your slaves, but feed us.'

    List of CHU'ers on deviantART--SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL DEVIANTS!

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    Darkish posted on Mar 28, 2009 12:29:41 PM - Report post
     
    Don't give them any ideas, Dhampy.
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    Al-pucino posted on Mar 28, 2009 6:14:32 PM - Report post
     
    I was the only one who switched off all electric appliances in my local area. I was literally living in darkness.
    A simple 24-year-old boy.

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    Neo7 posted on Mar 28, 2009 6:15:10 PM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by Resolution-X

    quote:
    originally posted by Dhampy

    No. The electricity is still being produced--the coal still being burned.

    What is a greater evil: burning coal to people can use electricity or burning coal and having no one use the electricity?

    Plus, I can't be bothered to relight the pilot lights in the furnace and water heater which will be extinguished when the automatic shutoff valve on the gas pipes is triggered by the loss of electricity.

    You're missing the point, it's about increasing awareness. Awareness about the fact that we don't need electricity running all the time - it's not a necessity, but a luxury. And if we can spare just a single hour of our lives a year to make do without them, then we will have reminded ourselves just how lucky we are.

    To not do it is entirely your choice, but it does suggest a bit of arrogance/ignorance on your part.

    I just did it, I'm surprised how quickly the hour went by. I started painting this collection of auras, really simple, but I ended up losing myself in the painting, and the time just flew by. It's quite something, we don't need electronics to entertain us all the time.

    I do not believe increasing the "awareness" nor do I support it. I believe in actually taking action and shutting down the root supplier for that hour.

    I'm with Dhampy here. If the Electric company will not cut power to those who do not need it, then I see no reason to to perform action since the power being produced is being wasted. That's like like turning on the computer and then just leaving it at the desktop with no processes running with your reasoning being "I do not want to use the computer because it's addicting". Turn the computer off and unplug it if that is what you want; there is no reason for it to be on or even setup for any reason.

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    Bes posted on Mar 28, 2009 6:22:38 PM - Report post
     
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    I think I will turn on all the lights in my house.

    Me too. Every light in my house is always on even though I make an attempt to conserve, I have an energy consuming family...

     
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