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2hot4u  posted on Jan 16, 2008 6:37:33 AM - Report post

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Yes,the old Muscles were made much stronger and far more durable than these new cars,and they didn't have all this computerized gadgets,which of course,malfunctions sooner or later,and cost a bundle to repair.
Chingy42007  posted on Jan 16, 2008 6:38:59 AM - Report post

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originally posted by 2hot4u

$100,000.00 wouldn't buy 3 Muscles,not if they are customized and in mint condition. I've sen Muscles go for as much as $300,000.00. The Muscles cost more than new cars.

Because they're better than this new cars.
On new cars is electronics and that can easy break.

Rubbish. Muscle cars are worth that because of their heritage, not because they're better than newer cars. The Charger uses drum brakes, for God's sake, whereas the LP640 uses carbon-ceramic brakes. The Charger is worth more than $300k today because it is an icon, a masterpiece of design, and ultra-rare.

And tell me, what "new cars" are these you speak of? I have yet to see a new car that breaks down because of an electronic failure.

2hot4u  posted on Jan 16, 2008 6:47:19 AM - Report post

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Check Consumer reports. Check out the American cars,their reliability and dependability records. Not pretty. Take the Dodge Ram,after only 40,000 miles it needs its engine serviced. Consider all the American cars that have been discontinued. Every American car I've had blew its motor before it reached 100,000 miles. These are the modern cars,not the old ones.

Yes,Muscles are rare,have an impressive history,and are collectors items,as well as being great investments,which accounts for how expensive they are these day.

Chingy42007  posted on Jan 16, 2008 6:56:13 AM - Report post

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Hah! I knew you were going to involve modern American cars.

Sorry to break it to you, but the fact of the matter is that when it comes to reliablity, American cars are the least reliable cars in the world.

Now I'm not just saying this, this is actual fact. You said yourself that every American car you've had blows its motor after 100k miles. I'm not sure whether this applies to most American cars or not, but I sure will bet my money that it does. My next door neighbour recently bought a 2008 Cadillac Escalade a month ago, and already it's broken down no less then 3 times. 1 engine failure and two electronic failures, both of which refused him to start the car.

When I said what I said in my last post, I had European cars in mind. You take an Audi, it will live longer than you. And it's built way better than the typical Corvette C6 or whatever.

The kings of reliability, however, are the Japanese. Top Gear once took a 1971 Toyota Pickup truck, still in 100% working order, then proceeded to set fire to it, drop it off a building, smash it into a city, park it in the ocean and have a wrecking ball bash it. The result of the carnage? It still worked.

European cars and Japanese cars rarely go wrong, and when it comes to servicing the cost all comes down to the brand name. If it's an Audi S3, it won't set you back much, but if its a Ferrari, you're going to have to expect a LOOOONG bill after it all. Provided that you car needs servicing in the first place, of course. Which it won't.

2hot4u  posted on Jan 16, 2008 7:05:17 AM - Report post

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Right,the jap and German cars are exceptional when it comes to reliability,dependability,and safety. There was a mother that had a crash in a new BMW,her baby asleep in the back seat. The crash totaled the BMW,but the mother was unharmed and the wreck didn't even wake the baby. Baby slept through the entire crash. Its the American cars that are junk,with the exception of Ford. Ford makes excellent cars,and I'm not just saying that because I have 2 Fords. Its a documented fact.
Chingy42007  posted on Jan 16, 2008 7:20:11 AM - Report post

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Agreed, Ford are exceptional. The Ford Focus range in particular, as they have passed Euro-encap safety tests with a full 5 star rating. And they have been commended for exceptional reliability, too. And to top it all off, they look pretty damn decent as well.

[Edited by Chingy42007, 1/16/2008 7:20:39 AM]

2hot4u  posted on Jan 16, 2008 9:33:27 AM - Report post

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I have a 2000 Ford Focus. Fully customized,amped performance. She's beautiful. Like my other 2 cars,she's black. I love black cars. My Focus is a sedan,not a hatchback. I've had her over a year and haven't had any major problems. Very dependable,reliable,trustworthy car.
davzilla  posted on Jan 16, 2008 12:59:14 PM - Report post

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Lol, that was funny couple of pages. i've owned 3 honda and 1 acrua, guess what my opinion is

I don't really like the traditional number matching muscle, not my style. i helped build a 69 camaro (among others) that'll be worth 150g's when it's done. it's all modernized suspension and brake upgrades, LS7, power everything, new a/c system, slammed with huge rims. like the "dub style" die cast toys.

oh and Lambo > Ferrari all effn day long. I'll take a tractor over a prick anyday.

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