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Katya12  posted on May 26, 2017 10:57:31 AM - Report post

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I've already made a similar post, but since it's in a long-running stickied thread, it's easy for it to be missed.

According to the new requirements, at least a min of 5 people are needed to ask for the same game before it's publicly put on the requests list for others to put credits to.

My question is, what if a person is willing to pay the full amount of credits to be filled? For example, "Game A" costs "12000" credits, and I can pay all the credits on the spot. If you tie it up to a minimum of 5 people, then even if someone is willing to pay for the credits, they can't, because it won't appear on the list to put credits in.

Is there a way for these sort of requesters to get access? Perhaps, you can have the trainer title privately show up for the original requester, and if he/she is able to fill up all the credits, then you can transfer the "completed" game to the live request list (where currently, you can see that a number of games have been filled to 100%, but trainers are not yet made for them). Or, would Pming the staff to work out an arrangement be acceptable?

 
Taurusplopp  posted on May 26, 2017 11:07:46 AM - Report post

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This should answer your question ...

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Once a title has received requests from at least 5 people, it will be placed on the official requests list where any number of users may contribute any number of points towards the credit goal of that title.
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Katya12  posted on May 26, 2017 11:31:47 AM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by Taurusplopp

This should answer your question ...

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Once a title has received requests from at least 5 people, it will be placed on the official requests list where any number of users may contribute any number of points towards the credit goal of that title.
[unquote]

Thank you for the quick reply, Taurusplopp!

The issue I'm seeing here, is the reason why there is a minimum limit of 5 people, it's because most people either don't have the credits to fill up the title or don't want to put in that kind of amount. So, there needs to be a way to check out demand for the game, as the game will be sitting there for awhile, waiting for more people to put credits into it.

But I'm talking about someone who is willing to put in the full amount of credits. I can't put in credits on a game that is not on the official list. For example, "Destiny 2" on the official request list has a requirement of "200000" credits. What if, there had not been a min of 5 people who requested for that game, but only 1 person. However, this person is willing to pay the full "200000" credits on the spot? I don't see the difference between 1400 people putting in "200000" credits and 1 person putting in "200000" credits.

You get what I'm saying?

 
Katya12  posted on May 26, 2017 12:06:07 PM - Report post

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To make it simpler to understand -

The new min 5 person limit -
It's because of dead demand. 1 person puts up a request, and it sits there for a long time, where nobody puts credits into the game. So, now it's changed to a min of 5 people.

The special issue -
1 person is willing to pay the full amount of credits. This 1 person requested a game trainer, but it doesn't appear on the list, because there is less than 5 people. But, this 1 person is willing to pay the full cost now. How to bypass this restriction?

If you say no, then what is the difference between 80 people paying "25000" credits and 1 person paying "25000" credits? It's still the same amount. There is no change, whether it is 5, 10 or 20 people.

So, I was proposing a bypass for these sort of requesters.

 
Jaks  posted on May 26, 2017 5:14:56 PM - Report post

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The Programmers were getting overrun with new requests. PWiz said the 5 requests minimum is to help them determine interest in a game before adding it to the Request list. After 5 people request a game, then any number of people can add the credits. One person or 100.

From PWiz:

It now requires that at least 5 different members submit a new request for the same title before it will be added to the official requests list. No one will know how many people have or have not submitted a request for any particular title. This will help us to gauge the interest in titles BEFORE we add them to the requests list.

 
PWizard  posted on May 26, 2017 7:44:42 PM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by Katya12

To make it simpler to understand -

The new min 5 person limit -
It's because of dead demand. 1 person puts up a request, and it sits there for a long time, where nobody puts credits into the game. So, now it's changed to a min of 5 people.

The special issue -
1 person is willing to pay the full amount of credits. This 1 person requested a game trainer, but it doesn't appear on the list, because there is less than 5 people. But, this 1 person is willing to pay the full cost now. How to bypass this restriction?

If you say no, then what is the difference between 80 people paying "25000" credits and 1 person paying "25000" credits? It's still the same amount. There is no change, whether it is 5, 10 or 20 people.

So, I was proposing a bypass for these sort of requesters.

We don't mind people spending their credits any way they want, the problem is that there are more games released every DAY than our multiple paid programmers could ever trainer or keep updated. We were spending half a day making a trainer that one person downloaded and that patched every other day because it's going to be in "early access" for the next 3 years in which we have to update it, support it, etc. The new system helps us make better trainers for more games by adding requested options to existing or new trainers, updating more older trainers, etc.

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