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    Kiriai posted on Apr 03, 2012 1:13:33 AM - Report post
     
    Servius, in all fairness I think he was talking about being banned from the entire game because you modded the files to cheat in single player. I believe he was suggesting that EA is not going to make a discernation about modded files and whether the "cheat" in question applies to single player or multi player and simply is going to assume that modifications are cheats and start with blanket bans.

    I do not believe this is the case. I think that worst-case scenario Origin would be set up to scan your system files only when you connect to multiplayer and then finding modded files you may get banned. More likely Origin would upload a copy of your modified files to EA servers and then would be reviewed for MP cheats, or, even more likely than that, Origin and the game are set up to look for stats in MP that simply should not be possible. Like people firing off powers with no cooldowns, crazy scores on the leaderboards, gaining 10 levels in one match, or completing a Bronze game and earning 100k credits where most every other match averages like 15k.

    And I believe that to be the case because as screwed up as some of the stuff that EA does is, they and all the other developers know you can't just start blanket banning people. It's a quick way to a boycott and a fierce one at that which would hurt their bottom line which everyone knows is the only thing EA really cares about anyway.

    So everyone rest easy and don't automatically think zebras when you hear hoofbeats. Might just be horses.
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    Mirraluka posted on Apr 03, 2012 1:58:19 AM - Report post
     
    Well people as we all know this is a ongoing problem people cheating in Multi-Player,i do not agree with anyone who cheats in MP and if you make the mistake with mods or trainers you will pay the ultimate price for cheating in MP.

    People have spent a lot of money on MP to get high stats etc and you have to be a super player to get anywhere near the top brackett,i know this because my oldest son did get to the top on a MP game, so i have no sympathy for the ones who get banned.

    The only answer is Caution,Caution,Caution in my opinion.
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    ServiusTheBear posted on Apr 03, 2012 2:18:28 AM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by Kiriai

    Servius, in all fairness I think he was talking about being banned from the entire game because you modded the files to cheat in single player. I believe he was suggesting that EA is not going to make a discernation about modded files and whether the "cheat" in question applies to single player or multi player and simply is going to assume that modifications are cheats and start with blanket bans.

    I do not believe this is the case. I think that worst-case scenario Origin would be set up to scan your system files only when you connect to multiplayer and then finding modded files you may get banned. More likely Origin would upload a copy of your modified files to EA servers and then would be reviewed for MP cheats, or, even more likely than that, Origin and the game are set up to look for stats in MP that simply should not be possible. Like people firing off powers with no cooldowns, crazy scores on the leaderboards, gaining 10 levels in one match, or completing a Bronze game and earning 100k credits where most every other match averages like 15k.

    And I believe that to be the case because as screwed up as some of the stuff that EA does is, they and all the other developers know you can't just start blanket banning people. It's a quick way to a boycott and a fierce one at that which would hurt their bottom line which everyone knows is the only thing EA really cares about anyway.

    So everyone rest easy and don't automatically think zebras when you hear hoofbeats. Might just be horses.

    Well I am referring to the MP! Then again they could still take the whole game away cause of that they have that right to. Oh and they have charged people to get there game back. People have payed for it to.

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    Skyheart posted on Apr 03, 2012 3:51:10 AM - Report post
     
    Just for those who haven't been to the thread, Thomas updated his post:

    Thomas Abram wrote...

    To clarify,

    Scylla was
    correct and I was correct. Scylla's answer was more broadly based in
    that if you modify your SP and it has no game changing effects to
    your/others multiplayer experience (say for example, granting you x
    amount of credits or making a weapon x times more powerful) then there
    is no problem with this. My answer was poorly worded and I apologize for
    that - I was aiming to answer a couple questions I had received via PM
    (the same two questions from many different users) as well as support
    what Scylla said.

    As mentioned by Scylla, you will not be banned
    for modifying your files *unless (and this is where my intention was)
    they give you an unfair advantage in any multiplayer aspect of the
    game.


    Also, if you got banned from the entire game because of cheating in MP - purposeful or accidental - any lawsuit against EA would just end up costing you a lot of money and you'd lose. You accepted this possibility when you accepted the T&C's when you installed Origin, and again when you installed ME3.

    Just scrolling to the bottom and clicking Agree, not actually reading the T&C's like most people do, isn't a defence either.
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    Shotgunmaniac posted on Apr 03, 2012 5:34:34 AM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by ServiusTheBear

    quote:
    originally posted by Kiriai

    Servius, in all fairness I think he was talking about being banned from the entire game because you modded the files to cheat in single player. I believe he was suggesting that EA is not going to make a discernation about modded files and whether the "cheat" in question applies to single player or multi player and simply is going to assume that modifications are cheats and start with blanket bans.

    I do not believe this is the case. I think that worst-case scenario Origin would be set up to scan your system files only when you connect to multiplayer and then finding modded files you may get banned. More likely Origin would upload a copy of your modified files to EA servers and then would be reviewed for MP cheats, or, even more likely than that, Origin and the game are set up to look for stats in MP that simply should not be possible. Like people firing off powers with no cooldowns, crazy scores on the leaderboards, gaining 10 levels in one match, or completing a Bronze game and earning 100k credits where most every other match averages like 15k.

    And I believe that to be the case because as screwed up as some of the stuff that EA does is, they and all the other developers know you can't just start blanket banning people. It's a quick way to a boycott and a fierce one at that which would hurt their bottom line which everyone knows is the only thing EA really cares about anyway.

    So everyone rest easy and don't automatically think zebras when you hear hoofbeats. Might just be horses.

    Well I am referring to the MP! Then again they could still take the whole game away cause of that they have that right to. Oh and they have charged people to get there game back. People have payed for it to.

    [Edited by ServiusTheBear, 4/3/2012 2:23:06 AM]

    Settle down, boy. If someone goes about hypothetically talking about how they would hypothetically go from being a hypothetical internet hardman to a hypothetical actual hardman with a civil suit, they will either respond to logic or are in fact already internet hardmen that are either trolling or blinded by callous stupidity and can't be calmed regardless.

    And right now? This very moment? You're being an internet hardman, bro. This thread has nothing to do with what anybody in it is doing in ME3's MP - it's about whether or not SP, and only SP, can get you a ban. There really wasn't a reason for anyone to get antsy here, MP is not "required" to get the best ending, (trainer can fix that quite easily by itself) nor would it even affect you personally if it was - people who simply want the best ending but don't want to play MP will do it alone. Hell, I got up to 90% on the first day - and I played all my matches legit, but solo. So heel 'fore this degenerates further.

    And plus, flying off the wheel and shouting about something off-topic is kind of my thing, and it's only supposed to be about frivolous stuff.

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    Skyheart posted on Apr 03, 2012 5:38:39 AM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by Shotgunmaniac

    quote:
    originally posted by ServiusTheBear

    quote:
    originally posted by Kiriai

    Servius, in all fairness I think he was talking about being banned from the entire game because you modded the files to cheat in single player. I believe he was suggesting that EA is not going to make a discernation about modded files and whether the "cheat" in question applies to single player or multi player and simply is going to assume that modifications are cheats and start with blanket bans.

    I do not believe this is the case. I think that worst-case scenario Origin would be set up to scan your system files only when you connect to multiplayer and then finding modded files you may get banned. More likely Origin would upload a copy of your modified files to EA servers and then would be reviewed for MP cheats, or, even more likely than that, Origin and the game are set up to look for stats in MP that simply should not be possible. Like people firing off powers with no cooldowns, crazy scores on the leaderboards, gaining 10 levels in one match, or completing a Bronze game and earning 100k credits where most every other match averages like 15k.

    And I believe that to be the case because as screwed up as some of the stuff that EA does is, they and all the other developers know you can't just start blanket banning people. It's a quick way to a boycott and a fierce one at that which would hurt their bottom line which everyone knows is the only thing EA really cares about anyway.

    So everyone rest easy and don't automatically think zebras when you hear hoofbeats. Might just be horses.

    Well I am referring to the MP! Then again they could still take the whole game away cause of that they have that right to. Oh and they have charged people to get there game back. People have payed for it to.

    [Edited by ServiusTheBear, 4/3/2012 2:23:06 AM]

    Settle down, boy. If someone goes about hypothetically talking about how they would hypothetically go from being a hypothetical internet hardman to a hypothetical actual hardman with a civil suit, they will either respond to logic or are in fact already internet hardmen that are either trolling or blinded by callous stupidity and can't be calmed regardless.

    And right now? This very moment? You're being an internet hardman, bro. This thread has nothing to do with what anybody in it is doing in ME3's MP - it's about whether or not SP, and only SP, can get you a ban. There really wasn't a reason for anyone to get antsy here, MP is not "required" to get the best ending, (trainer can fix that quite easily by itself) nor would it even affect you personally if it was - people who simply want the best ending but don't want to play MP will do it alone. Hell, I got up to 90% on the first day - and I played all my matches legit, but solo. So heel 'fore this degenerates further.

    And plus, flying off the wheel and shouting about something off-topic is kind of my thing, and it's only supposed to be about frivolous stuff.

    I believe that's my job.

    Oh, wait... I fly off the wheel and shout about something on-topic. My mistake. Carry on!

    [Edited by Skyheart, 4/3/2012 5:39:20 AM]

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    Neo7 posted on Apr 03, 2012 8:10:43 AM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by Shotgunmaniac

    quote:
    originally posted by ServiusTheBear

    quote:
    originally posted by Kiriai

    Servius, in all fairness I think he was talking about being banned from the entire game because you modded the files to cheat in single player. I believe he was suggesting that EA is not going to make a discernation about modded files and whether the "cheat" in question applies to single player or multi player and simply is going to assume that modifications are cheats and start with blanket bans.

    I do not believe this is the case. I think that worst-case scenario Origin would be set up to scan your system files only when you connect to multiplayer and then finding modded files you may get banned. More likely Origin would upload a copy of your modified files to EA servers and then would be reviewed for MP cheats, or, even more likely than that, Origin and the game are set up to look for stats in MP that simply should not be possible. Like people firing off powers with no cooldowns, crazy scores on the leaderboards, gaining 10 levels in one match, or completing a Bronze game and earning 100k credits where most every other match averages like 15k.

    And I believe that to be the case because as screwed up as some of the stuff that EA does is, they and all the other developers know you can't just start blanket banning people. It's a quick way to a boycott and a fierce one at that which would hurt their bottom line which everyone knows is the only thing EA really cares about anyway.

    So everyone rest easy and don't automatically think zebras when you hear hoofbeats. Might just be horses.

    Well I am referring to the MP! Then again they could still take the whole game away cause of that they have that right to. Oh and they have charged people to get there game back. People have payed for it to.

    [Edited by ServiusTheBear, 4/3/2012 2:23:06 AM]

    Settle down, boy. If someone goes about hypothetically talking about how they would hypothetically go from being a hypothetical internet hardman to a hypothetical actual hardman with a civil suit, they will either respond to logic or are in fact already internet hardmen that are either trolling or blinded by callous stupidity and can't be calmed regardless.

    And right now? This very moment? You're being an internet hardman, bro. This thread has nothing to do with what anybody in it is doing in ME3's MP - it's about whether or not SP, and only SP, can get you a ban. There really wasn't a reason for anyone to get antsy here, MP is not "required" to get the best ending, (trainer can fix that quite easily by itself) nor would it even affect you personally if it was - people who simply want the best ending but don't want to play MP will do it alone. Hell, I got up to 90% on the first day - and I played all my matches legit, but solo. So heel 'fore this degenerates further.

    And plus, flying off the wheel and shouting about something off-topic is kind of my thing, and it's only supposed to be about frivolous stuff.

    Please mind the mild condescending tone this can be interpreted as (whether intentionally or unintentionally implied). It is generally an unwelcome tone to most people.

    [Edited by Neo7, 4/3/2012 8:11:42 AM]

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    Shotgunmaniac posted on Apr 03, 2012 8:25:40 AM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by Neo7

    quote:
    originally posted by Shotgunmaniac

    quote:
    originally posted by ServiusTheBear

    quote:
    originally posted by Kiriai

    Servius, in all fairness I think he was talking about being banned from the entire game because you modded the files to cheat in single player. I believe he was suggesting that EA is not going to make a discernation about modded files and whether the "cheat" in question applies to single player or multi player and simply is going to assume that modifications are cheats and start with blanket bans.

    I do not believe this is the case. I think that worst-case scenario Origin would be set up to scan your system files only when you connect to multiplayer and then finding modded files you may get banned. More likely Origin would upload a copy of your modified files to EA servers and then would be reviewed for MP cheats, or, even more likely than that, Origin and the game are set up to look for stats in MP that simply should not be possible. Like people firing off powers with no cooldowns, crazy scores on the leaderboards, gaining 10 levels in one match, or completing a Bronze game and earning 100k credits where most every other match averages like 15k.

    And I believe that to be the case because as screwed up as some of the stuff that EA does is, they and all the other developers know you can't just start blanket banning people. It's a quick way to a boycott and a fierce one at that which would hurt their bottom line which everyone knows is the only thing EA really cares about anyway.

    So everyone rest easy and don't automatically think zebras when you hear hoofbeats. Might just be horses.

    Well I am referring to the MP! Then again they could still take the whole game away cause of that they have that right to. Oh and they have charged people to get there game back. People have payed for it to.

    [Edited by ServiusTheBear, 4/3/2012 2:23:06 AM]

    Settle down, boy. If someone goes about hypothetically talking about how they would hypothetically go from being a hypothetical internet hardman to a hypothetical actual hardman with a civil suit, they will either respond to logic or are in fact already internet hardmen that are either trolling or blinded by callous stupidity and can't be calmed regardless.

    And right now? This very moment? You're being an internet hardman, bro. This thread has nothing to do with what anybody in it is doing in ME3's MP - it's about whether or not SP, and only SP, can get you a ban. There really wasn't a reason for anyone to get antsy here, MP is not "required" to get the best ending, (trainer can fix that quite easily by itself) nor would it even affect you personally if it was - people who simply want the best ending but don't want to play MP will do it alone. Hell, I got up to 90% on the first day - and I played all my matches legit, but solo. So heel 'fore this degenerates further.

    And plus, flying off the wheel and shouting about something off-topic is kind of my thing, and it's only supposed to be about frivolous stuff.

    Please mind the mild condescending tone this can be interpreted as (whether intentionally or unintentionally implied). It is generally an unwelcome tone to most people.

    [Edited by Neo7, 4/3/2012 8:11:42 AM]

    He's got me on Steam friends, so if he didn't get that it was a sarcastic-y post I'd likely be getting an earful right about now .

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