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Why did I ever buy this game
 
Shotgunmaniac  posted on Nov 05, 2010 9:29:20 PM - Report post

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I don't think GOTY as far as for the RPG genre, but there isn't much other competition for it. Mass Effect 2 should blow it out of the water to get GOTY to be honest, since they both operate as action RPGs. I wouldn't hold Vegas in the same breath as Fallout 3 which was a classic RPG. Vegas, IMO, is a mess of a game from storyline through quest-line, with worse characters looks than what was already weak character looks in Fallout 3.

At least the character factions in Fallout 3 were more plausible.

LOL what? Enclave being a dominant faction after getting nuked in FO2? Brotherhood of steel being a righteous force of justice when all they've ever been is tech-mongers? Super mutants that dip people in FEV vats "just cause?" Vampires?

The NCR has always been a faction in Fallout. (granted, they were just a small village in the first game) The Followers were in the first game, opposing the main villain, Caesar was supposed to be in the canceled sequel... I think, lore-wise, the factions in New Vegas make far more sense than the cliche canon defying black and white factions of Fallout 3.

 
sgtmini  posted on Nov 05, 2010 11:31:48 PM - Report post

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I have heard there are bugs but I haven't hit any major ones. The only time the game has EVER crashed or messed up for me was because I used the console... Thus it was my own damn fault lol. If it messes up or crashes its probably either because of that or you have the settings on your game up too high. I have a really good computer so I can run with maxed settings with no problems. My friends that have lesser computers have told me they hit A LOT of glitches if they have the settings too high and when they turned them down the glitch went away.

[Edited by sgtmini, 11/5/2010 11:35:55 PM]

 
tommy6860  posted on Nov 06, 2010 10:22:26 AM - Report post

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I don't think GOTY as far as for the RPG genre, but there isn't much other competition for it. Mass Effect 2 should blow it out of the water to get GOTY to be honest, since they both operate as action RPGs. I wouldn't hold Vegas in the same breath as Fallout 3 which was a classic RPG. Vegas, IMO, is a mess of a game from storyline through quest-line, with worse characters looks than what was already weak character looks in Fallout 3.

At least the character factions in Fallout 3 were more plausible.

LOL what? Enclave being a dominant faction after getting nuked in FO2? Brotherhood of steel being a righteous force of justice when all they've ever been is tech-mongers? Super mutants that dip people in FEV vats "just cause?" Vampires?

The NCR has always been a faction in Fallout. (granted, they were just a small village in the first game) The Followers were in the first game, opposing the main villain, Caesar was supposed to be in the canceled sequel... I think, lore-wise, the factions in New Vegas make far more sense than the cliche canon defying black and white factions of Fallout 3.

When did I say anything about the NCR not being a faction in Fallout? You went completely off on what I stated when regarding the factions in Vegas and Fallout 3. I didn't state any absence of them or relevance to earlier Fallouts from long ago. I only stated they (the factions) were more plausible in Fallout 3 (BOS, Outcast, Enclave. Raiders, etc). In Vegas, it got out of hand because you could join up with Romanesque Legions, Robots, or the NCR. Seriously, is that more plausible considering the story from all releases of the game.

I can see the NCR being plausible. You can't count Caesar just because he was left out because Black Isle Studios went under, and that is irrelevant to what I stated anyway. Bottom line is, he wasn't part of the story until now, which I think that faction is pretty silly. If it appeals to you, that's fine. But this game doesn't hold a candle to Fallout 3 in quality or playing through the main quest with continuity.

 
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I actually enjoyed siding with Caesars legion.A man united the tribals bringing stability to many as the cost of slavery and harsh lessons.NCR on the otherhand aren't peacekeepers.They are the typical republic government who forces there way of life on people, and want more just because they think there right.Anyway no matter what you do you get a minor ending for your character.
 
ServiusTheBear  posted on Nov 07, 2010 1:52:30 AM - Report post

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@ tommy6860 Why dose it sound like you dont like the choice? Cause thats what that sounds like to me.

[Edited by Lord-Servius, 11/7/2010 1:53:38 AM]

 
tommy6860  posted on Nov 07, 2010 2:50:28 AM - Report post

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@ tommy6860 Why dose it sound like you dont like the choice? Cause thats what that sounds like to me.

[Edited by Lord-Servius, 11/7/2010 1:53:38 AM]

It doesn't matter about choices. I think the game is crap compared to Fallout 3, it doesn't come close. Too bad they couldn't be a little more original in the concept of Vegas. Hell, they even recycled the music and perks from Fallout 3.

If you like the game, that's fine, you are entitled to like it, just as I am entitled to dislike it. After starting a second play-through, I couldn't stomach it, it has since been sold and I got most of my money back.

 
Hasbo  posted on Nov 07, 2010 9:32:01 AM - Report post

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I seem to get a lot of item specific crashes. For instance; the brotherhood of steel upstairs in the the robo factory, as soon as I try and take the holotape of one - my game crashes.
 
Alias117  posted on Nov 07, 2010 4:56:37 PM - Report post

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There are alot of things that can frustrate a person i would have loved the followers to stay at 1 location if you tell them to leave, after you have recruited them either they move to a safe house you have or 1 specific outpost.

The crafting system being what it is, i can make my own ammo yeah baby, but what about my shishkabob(what ever it was called), my bottlecap mine and such so far i could not find out a way of making any of the funny stuff from fallout 3 at all, but i can cook some foods and such that is usefull in hc mode. When they said they brought in the crafting off ammo and such to add to the game i thought cool new types of homemade mines weapons and such but afraid not, just more ammo for you and some minor items like hydra's and such you can make.

And incase ive been a dweeb and not found the old school plans ups.

Fallout 3 great game, Fallout new Vegas great game but lacking some of the things from Fallout 3 and also improveing a bit in regards to the rep with different factions, and a better sort of morality system, either take the lowtech slavers or the semi hightech slavers forceing there ways on people. The game has some choices for you, however the moral choices dont have the same sort of severity as it does in the ME series.

The fallout series as a whole, from Fallout 1 to now includeing ALL the games in between, they all had a story even in fallout Tactics, and the main story I got from it was Dont give up, fight for your beliefs and shoot as many peoples heads off as possible , the game is about hope and how your char brings it to people i love that in a game.

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