They are only on the market as black editions because people with more money than sense buy them, again it is the same hardware they are not designed to be stressed out.
For example 3.0-3.4ghz that has been overclocked to 4ghz won't last long without developing faults. It comes down to this if they were so stable why is there not 4ghz CPU's. Ahh now you get the idea
Take a submarine down to depths its designed for things are hunky dory for a long time, some may develop faults thats the nature of things nothing is 100%, but take it down even another 30 meters and it will cause the shell to start to buckle due to the pressures. It is the same with CPU's it too will start to buckle under pressure no matter the cooling.
Hmm I'll have to think about that. And the monitor will be a ViewSonic VA2231wm 22inch LCD (1920x1080 resolution)
I never said you were talking about 2 different frequencies of RAM. I gave an example to show something.
And again you missed the point, the first 4 speeds that mostly all RAM suppliers show means nothing, its the further 6 after them is the main values you should be looking at.
Value RAM has high latency in terms of those that they can effectively start lagging during operations as the memory has high latency and cannot distribute the data quickly enough.
So again Value RAM is not effective, in the long run it is no good, a good branded RAM is the better choice - it doesnt need the heatsinks etc, just a good set of timings.
Uh no, black editions are not the same. There are differences when making the CPU's. Some bins might be better than others. They pick the best bins for black editions and unlock the multiplier. With black editions you only need to change the CPU multiplier, you don't have to change the FSB and HT with the non-black edition. And you can also increase the speed without upping the voltage. They are easier to OC, that is a fact, go to any tech site and you will find out.
Why are there no 4ghz chips, they would be expensive and would need one hell of a stock cooler. Why do they not have 800hp stock engines for cars, because they can't? Of course not, it could be done but for the average person its obviously not needed and would be very expensive and not really needed. However, for OC enthusiasts 4GZ can be done and is done. Heat kills a CPU, not the "pressure" of OCing. Also, not everyone OC's to 4GHZ or more, many people OC maybe a 200mhz or so. I've had my 965 OC'd from 3.4 to 3.6 for going on two years now, everything is just fine, and that is with the stock cooler. Of course every chip is different, some OC better than other, depending on the bin.
Also, please give some statistics on CPU's oc'd to 4ghz don't last long. Do you have an facts to back that up?
Ah okay, at the resolution a 460 or 5870 will be just fine and a single card should be more than sufficient. Good luck with your build
The OP is using his computer for gaming, the video card and CPU will effect performance more than RAM will. Do you have any stats that shows expensive performance ram will increase game play over cheaper value ram? The link I posted showed not that much of a difference when it came to timings.
There is no real difference just 1 byte resident in the ROM chip. The TLB to be precise. You can force unlock it while in an OS but your unable of course to change the multiplier in the BIOS so you need software to do it in an OS.
Again I will stress there is no difference in hardware between the two, that is fact. It is just that unlocked multiplier.
As for stressing yes of course it will degrade over time while overclocked, the components are designed to run at a stable clock speed it is set at, increasing voltage etc will just hasten its demise.
Depending on the amount, you could get away with another 100-200mhz for a long time before signs show, obviously higher the more chance you have to damage the CPU.
And its not the CPU as ive said the motherboard gets hit also it has to deal with higher HT.
Any OCing tools from either Intel or AMD will tell you, OCing will reduce the life expectancy of a CPU. They don't just throw that themselves in there for nothing you know.
Let me ask you why when OCing a CPU do you have to increase the HT?
I think your trying to talk about things you have basic knowledge of, as usual I get hit with the "Show me proof" crap :P
Here is some stats for you..
The difference first in clock speeds..
DDR3 1066 vs DDR3 1333
1066 = avg 6GB/s
1333 = avg 7.3GB/s
Ideal timings for each
1066 - 7-7-7-20
1333 - 8-8-8-15
Now for frame rates, if you chose a game crysis for instance..
1066 vs 1333 = 1333 with a +4 fps avg
Now throw in crappy 1333 RAM with the 8-8-8-15 but double the latency as usual from value RAM - its about the same as the 1066.
So YES, it does make a difference and yes so does the branding.
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