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You gotta be around lvl 30 to get the best armour and you need about 40 luck to get full

well since you are confused...

lvl 25 is when you get daedric, and luck has almost nothing to do with getting it, luck is just a thing in the game you have to help put things in your favour a little more

Yeah, things like critical chance, finding "enchanted" items and maybe sometimes you get hit with less damage.

alright so if you want to have the second best standard heavy armor in the game when you start out and one of the strongest swords besides merhunes razor you have to go to Vindasel its an ayelid ruin outside of the Imperial City go through it and you will find a warior named umbra now if you suck i recommend turning down your difficulty to nothing then go in and attackthe only way to beat her is to attack with a long range weapon or a claymore and go in circles and strike allowing her to barely hit you at all. When you defeat her if you aren't a member of the dark brotherhood sleep in that little sleeping bag thing you will be visited by lecien and you will have full ebony and the sword umbra one of the greatest swords in the game. Adnd if you are a light armor user take the ebony armor anyway and sell it if you aren't a blade user keep umbra anyway and waight until you are lvl 20 go to the shrine clavicus vile and trade it in for the mask of clavicus vile i hope that helped

1: half of us already knew that (but thanks for telling the other half...)

2: dont trade in umbra for a stupid mask, the mask does nothing but give you +20 personality, which you can get a helm and self enchant it for that much, and your trading in one of the best swords in the game for a helm that doesn't even have that much armor

3: I beat umbra with the difficulty on half by just using my best dagger (i was about lvl 15 at the time) and i just charge and attack, then back off
if i needed to heal, i paused and drank a healing potion, or i used a healing spell and it took me a good 2 minutes to beat her, but i did it on my first try, plus you could just sneak up and do some critical damage if your good at sneaking...like me...

Yeah I know most people know about umbra but i am tryin to help this guy out and i told him a way to beat umbra at lvl 1 but i forgot to mention go to whats his name first to get the beginner stuff from the main mission but i mean umbra is easy at any lvl of course she is even easier at lvl 15. and you can get daedric at lvl 20 just wait till then to do the shopkeeper quest with the coinpurse shop at the very end when you fight those two guys the bodyguard person will have full daedric you will have to wait longer though if you want to get enchanted daedric that is where lvl 25 comes into play. and the house that he was talkin about earlier was the roxey inn might want to do the thieves guild quests first tho so you can get the grey cowl.

[Edited by Flavawolf, 3/27/2008 5:35:31 PM]

[Edited by Flavawolf, 3/27/2008 5:37:28 PM]

you only see daedric weapons at lvl 20

daedric armor doesn't even appear on npcs until lvl 25...

and enchanted armor is random with the set, i could be a lvl 25 and get a daedric helm with 105ft life detection, its just a matter of, well, luck, but not game luck

and yes, i've gotten a daedric helm with that enchantment, but not at lvl 25 (try lvl 35ish)

actually i got full daedric at level 22 just to throw that in there