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Shavako  posted on Nov 22, 2009 11:41:35 PM - Report post

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BG2 had more content and was a bit bigger with its storyline I believe. It was dedicated to someone as well so maybe that enthused its greatness.

I only like rpg games mainly for the surprise around every corner of the story so once most of the quests are done importantly the main quest the game becomes dull after the 2nd playthrough. I did like that some choices did make a small difference in the 2nd time around but nothing too different so it was mildly boring. Im on my 4th playthrough and basicaly im just adding mods as they come out and using them for 10-20min till im bored of them.

I'd give DaO a 7/10 for its good story and fun quests but it lacked grinding to explore areas with high level mobs. This feature is important to me since it adds many hours of leveling with a huge sense of accomplishment once your 2-5 lvls higher then the area mobs when they were 2 lvls higher 1 hour ago including all the loot you get for grinding which wasnt something DaO had.

Most of the mobs never dropped anything worthwhile so killing was just a necessity to continue without dying of a mob following you behind you and having run into a mob in front.

DaO needed the JRPG style games with the added replay value that comes with unique weapons n armor that comes from grinding and power over time. Needed more items and weapons/armor instead of like 7 different unqiue sets which is my estimate. I hate having the items given to me from the mobs that add new items I'd rather do a quest and fight mobs to obtain my awesome gear.

Overall the game is good the 1st time around while its still a thrill otherwise there not much to do after the 2nd playtrhough I expect though Bioware or EA will shoot for 2 years of DLC and expansions which add hours of new thrills and gear to the game which is what it needs to stay alive for most players.

 
squalllion1uk  posted on Nov 23, 2009 6:11:30 AM - Report post

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Thought it was/is a great game and probably one of my better purchases this year game wise. Though to each there own.

The only few things i didnt like was there was not a massive variation of armor/robes/weapons they all had a similar look and not alot that made you think " OMFG" ie most all mage robes looked well fail?
It is after all a fantasy game and well maybe a masssive great sword that looked like it has slaughter'd a 1000 enemys before rather than the sorta blandish looking weapons.

Story wise it was great from the first 5 mins (playing as human rogue) i wanted to keep playing to get to know the other characters untill the end when she did what she did.

Also it doesnt really leave me a lot of replay value. As after the 2nd playthrough i have experinced pretty much everything there is to offer but of course there is a lot of moders and most likely exspansions hopefully.

Pretty much agree with shavako hit it on the head.

[Edited by squalllion1uk, 11/23/2009 6:13:45 AM]

 
Shavako  posted on Nov 23, 2009 12:01:42 PM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by squalllion1uk

Thought it was/is a great game and probably one of my better purchases this year game wise. Though to each there own.

The only few things i didnt like was there was not a massive variation of armor/robes/weapons they all had a similar look and not alot that made you think " OMFG" ie most all mage robes looked well fail?
It is after all a fantasy game and well maybe a masssive great sword that looked like it has slaughter'd a 1000 enemys before rather than the sorta blandish looking weapons.

Story wise it was great from the first 5 mins (playing as human rogue) i wanted to keep playing to get to know the other characters untill the end when she did what she did.

Also it doesnt really leave me a lot of replay value. As after the 2nd playthrough i have experinced pretty much everything there is to offer but of course there is a lot of moders and most likely exspansions hopefully.

Pretty much agree with shavako hit it on the head.

[Edited by squalllion1uk, 11/23/2009 6:13:45 AM]

I agree I played it for the thrill of knowing the characters and events around me unfolding but once the 2nd playthrough is over you pretty much expereinced it all .

 
Greenpakto  posted on Nov 23, 2009 1:12:55 PM - Report post

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Well I belive more random drops would have been nice.. As you said "Shavako", the only reason for killing everything is because they will otherwise be in your way. Bosses rarely drop anything good, and if they do, then they anyway only drop equip that is much worse then the stuff that YOU ALWAYS get. For example Juggernaut set, Dragon scales, Warden Armor. Those are the best sets there is... Pretty much anyway. So even if a boss drops a heavy plate mail they suck compared to the quest loot. If they would have had random rare drops plus import/export, that would have been a big reason for me playing it over and over again!
Something that I also liked in BG2 is in which way the faces were added. I mean the faces were made as ARTS, and thats a lot better then using the face of the characters 3D.
(This I mean particularily when it came to your companions).
Off course its a 3D world right now, but I still think they could have used art portraits as well!

I believe they dedicated BG2 to, "Daniel Walker", and he was the second employee of Bioware. It states so in the BG2 manual.

I know its not fair comparing Dragon Age with BG2 because lets be honest, nothing beats the story in BG2 and the way the whole game was created! EPIC!

[Edited by Greenpakto, 11/23/2009 1:14:04 PM]

 
Shavako  posted on Nov 23, 2009 6:55:57 PM - Report post

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originally posted by Greenpakto

Well I belive more random drops would have been nice.. As you said "Shavako", the only reason for killing everything is because they will otherwise be in your way. Bosses rarely drop anything good, and if they do, then they anyway only drop equip that is much worse then the stuff that YOU ALWAYS get. For example Juggernaut set, Dragon scales, Warden Armor. Those are the best sets there is... Pretty much anyway. So even if a boss drops a heavy plate mail they suck compared to the quest loot. If they would have had random rare drops plus import/export, that would have been a big reason for me playing it over and over again!
Something that I also liked in BG2 is in which way the faces were added. I mean the faces were made as ARTS, and thats a lot better then using the face of the characters 3D.
(This I mean particularily when it came to your companions).
Off course its a 3D world right now, but I still think they could have used art portraits as well!

I believe they dedicated BG2 to, "Daniel Walker", and he was the second employee of Bioware. It states so in the BG2 manual.

I know its not fair comparing Dragon Age with BG2 because lets be honest, nothing beats the story in BG2 and the way the whole game was created! EPIC!

[Edited by Greenpakto, 11/23/2009 1:14:04 PM]

Agreed BG2 was truly a western rpg epic.

It should have been so in DaO too but they missed a lot of important features which I believe EA had a lot to do with the lack there of. EA are screwballs with odd perceptions of how games should be finished and theyre also screwing people over with the "online" requirment for command and conquer 4. EA only wants money for awfull games or games with DLC that wont work and only have 5-15minutes of content for $7! BAH

BG2 was a great game and had better loot n rewards.

Heres a quote for the upcoming DLC for DaO:

"Update: Some quick comments from BioWare's Rob Bartel on the official forums:

Sorry, no waffles but there will be some voicework, including from the followers. We put a particular focus on the various followers who were also present at the battle. As for precisely when it will come out, we don't have a specific answer to that yet which is why we're being vague. We're still tackling one last optimization issue and then we need to make it through final testing and certification across all three platforms.
Average playtime is always tough to pin down because everyone's mileage will vary (and developers player the game in a very different manner than a typical first-time player). I can do a speed run (skipping through conversations and cutscenes, using a buff party, controlling Dog, avoiding some combats, ignoring loot drops, not looking at the scenery, etc) in about 15-20 minutes. I suspect it would take a typical first-time player about an hour to complete."

 
Greenpakto  posted on Nov 24, 2009 8:13:37 AM - Report post

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"Shavako", wtf that was a very small addition :O
"15-20" minutes.. Haha ridiculous addon for sure.
I dont want to totaly beat the crap out of the game though.
It was very fun gameplay... ONCE :P
The game is as it is though and they cant really improve it any further. They might learn from their mistakes, and maybe not!
 
NocturnX  posted on Nov 24, 2009 8:34:46 AM - Report post

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You people bashing this game make me sick. I think you do it just because you think it makes you seem above it. Guess what... your not. If you don't like an epic game like Dragon Age you don't like RPG games in general in which case you shouldn't have played it to begin with. Go back to your mindless FPS clones. The amazing amount work and detail that so apparently went into this game is incredible and there is more downloadable content to come. The rich and immersive history and story alone is worth playing the game. possers!
 
Takekaze  posted on Nov 24, 2009 12:02:09 PM - Report post

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Well, city elf experience is different than human noble, which is different than dwarf noble, which is different than dwarf commoner which is different than mage. Add different genders and... Well... I'll be occupied with this for a while still.

City elf and human noble are the only ones I've finished so far.

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