0x90 posted on Jun 28, 2021 10:08:21 AM - Report post
Windows 11 can only be successful when everyone upgrades. This is why Windows 11 is free. If TPM2 cause only 20% to upgrade, they will drop the requirement, I agree with Neo about this.
It wouldn't be the first lie of Microsoft. I just remember how they announced Windows 7 users are no longer able to upgrade for free. It turned out they still can upgrade with their product key for free. Microsoft just wanted to create a "dead line" and force doubters to upgrade.
My thoughts about Windows 11 is that I'm looking forward for any technical innovation. I will upgrade as soon as I can. And when it's available I can tell if I like it.
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Cruel_Xerxes posted on Jun 28, 2021 10:47:12 AM - Report post
Seems alot of MB's just cheaped out and put the connector for a TPM. Do you have get the same brand TPM for your MB or can you mix and match manufacturers?
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CyPHeR369 posted on Jun 28, 2021 3:22:01 PM - Report post
Pretty sure TMP chips are outsourced by all MB manufacturers, should be able to get any chip out there and just plug it into the header on the board then just enable it under the BIOS security settings. Most don't call it TMP so you will have to look it up per board.
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Deviousfurball posted on Jun 29, 2021 7:59:56 AM - Report post
For the most part, it seems motherboards made after 2016 support TPM natively without the need for an additional TPM module. My pc has gone from being unable to run Win11, to being able to run it, just by enabeling it in the bios. My version is the AMD platform so it is called "fTPM".
Will we get all the features of the OS without the adittional TPM module? I honestly cannot say as Microsoft themselves have removed the "PC Health Check" tool that informs you of your PC's readyness, due to the total confusion this requirement has caused. You however can see your systems state by using the Win+R command and typing in "tpm.msc". I am very new to this tech and also have a TPM module port on my motherboard. Also, I only understand what I have read from the various tech sources, so I am no expert but apparently I am win 11 ready by enabling fTPM in the bios, but it seems I don't need the scalped modules, which is good news 😁
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Sapphire posted on Jun 29, 2021 8:57:07 AM - Report post
seems my motherboard x99-a supports tpm 1.2 tho doesn't seem to be included by default.
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Deviousfurball posted on Jun 29, 2021 4:24:26 PM - Report post
It seems that a TPM module might not be required "If your machine does not have a dedicated TPM chip, your CPU may have an equivalent built-in." www.notebookcheck.net/Windows-11-No-Trusted-Platform-Module-Many-AMD-and-Intel-processors-can-run-Microsoft-s-new-OS-without-a-dedicated-TPM-2-0-chip.548267.0.html
TLDR: It seems that TPM 2.0 encryption is built into modern chips/chipsets firmware and a TPM module just shifts the encryption location to a removable device, allowing motherboard/processor changes. If you choose to use your CPU as the TPM module you can't change/upgrade your CPU without losing your data (not that motherboard manufacturers standardised the TPM interface, meaning if you change mobo there is no gaurantee that the module will work on the new mobo. ASUS connectors seem to be different from Gigabyte, for example). However, this information does nothing to help people running processors before AMD Zen1 and 7th gen Intel. docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors
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0x90 posted on Jun 30, 2021 2:39:52 AM - Report post
FYI the first Windows 11 version is available for insiders. As if now it does not require TPM 2.0 Link Anyone who wants to install this I highly recommend to check out the known issues in the blog. Its definitely not ready to be used in productive environment.
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PWizard posted on Jun 30, 2021 6:24:47 AM - Report post
It failed to install on my desktop but was installed without a hitch on my laptop. Does have a few quirks, but I like it so far.
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