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    PWizard posted on Jun 27, 2021 3:48:22 PM - Report post
     
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    if someone thinks that the Microsoft provided health check doesn't say much, I found an article on one of my computer sites I frequent that refers to another program that would say a little bit more Link

    All green bar the TMP either missing or Disabled.

    I had a we check on my mobo www.msi.com/Motherboard/MPG-X570-Gaming-PLUS/Specification

    It says it has a TPM (HEADER) 1 but dont know what it supports?

    [Edited by ServiusTheBear, 6/27/2021 3:28:24 PM]

    Means you will have to probably purchase a TPM chip like me and install it into your MB header.

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    ServiusTheBear posted on Jun 27, 2021 4:09:01 PM - Report post
     
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    originally posted by Nookman

    if someone thinks that the Microsoft provided health check doesn't say much, I found an article on one of my computer sites I frequent that refers to another program that would say a little bit more Link

    All green bar the TMP either missing or Disabled.

    I had a we check on my mobo www.msi.com/Motherboard/MPG-X570-Gaming-PLUS/Specification

    It says it has a TPM (HEADER) 1 but dont know what it supports?

    [Edited by ServiusTheBear, 6/27/2021 3:28:24 PM]

    Means you will have to probably purchase a TPM chip like me and install it into your MB header.

    Oh hmmm not sure where I would get that stuff.

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    Neo7 posted on Jun 27, 2021 4:28:45 PM - Report post
     
    I noted that AMD typically will have TPM disabled in BIOS regardless whether you have it or not. It can't hurt to turn that option on in the BIOS first (if it lets you) then check compatibility again as that's free thing to do. I honestly don't understand why they're enforcing this and I don't see any worthwhile gains from it. I'm willing to bet that Microsoft will walk back this requirement after launch.

    Beyond that, this looks like a rebranding to get away from the Windows 10 reputation. Windows 10 has such a negative reputation when it comes to UI design language that it can't decide on or improve upon. It feels like they're giving up on the Windows 10 being the last operating system and trying to get more market share.

    On the surface / desktop it looks sleek and shows what Fluent Design was really meant to look like. For the Average Joe user that will never touch the power user stuff and just surf the internet, that'll be a huge improvement for them. For power users, I'm sure we'll immediately uncover inconsistent design again (Windows Firewall > Vista design language, Device Manager > Windows 9x design language, etc etc).

    I'm dubious on Auto HDR and how that will fair. I guess we'll see. I am excited for Direct Storage and what improvements that can bring to the table. I don't like how Microsoft says it hopes game stores like Steam get put in the Microsoft Store with their policies as it comes off as them trying to get a slice of the pie with revenue.

    I don't like Teams being built in. It just screams that they're trying to pull off the same shenanigans that they did with Windows 10 and Skype and nobody wanted it. Most people have forgotten they did this with People because they have it turned off. Just make it a download like the old days of Windows Live Essentials and leave people alone if they don't go for it.

    In summary, it's a step in the right direction for getting the OS consistent with UI design as that's been sorely needed. Compared to many Linux DEs and macOS, Windows has been in last place in that regards for quite awhile now. My personal take is that they need to do the painful process of updating the stuff that's still on archaic frameworks (Device Manager, Management Console, etc etc).
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    CyPHeR369 posted on Jun 27, 2021 4:58:13 PM - Report post
     
    @Servius

    Your local puter repair shop could do it for you. TPM installation is a bit involved.

    www.pugetsystems.com/labs/support-hardware/Trusted-Platform-Modules-and-How-To-Use-Them-1814/

    [Edited by CyPHeR369, 6/27/2021 4:59:06 PM]
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    BlackPanthera posted on Jun 28, 2021 3:57:31 AM - Report post
     
    Guys, i have some news, in some Russian Vkontakte group about games and gaming news, to which I subscribed, posted the following news: Link

    If write the news briefly, without a total translation from Russian to English, because for your time wasting, then this is what new about:

    Microsoft has published extended system requirements for Windows 11, according to which individual OS builds will not require a TPM to be installed.
    Such images can target countries that do not use Western encryption technologies, including Russia and China.

    I live in Russia, and my pc is not very old, but this news about TPM and so on - puzzled me. Plus, my FX8350 is said to be unsupported, but there is a lot of news personally from people who have installed Windows 10 on unsupported processors, and Windows works well for them, without any problems. I hope that in the case of Windows 11 it will be the same.

    Summing up, I want to say this. If suddenly, you do not want to mess with these TPM protocols and other things, try to get the version of Windows from us, from Russia, or from China. As you understand, this news is just news for now, and you need to wait for the official release of Windows on sale to make sure this news turns out to be true or not. In general, let's wait for the next news.
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    ServiusTheBear posted on Jun 28, 2021 7:48:13 AM - Report post
     
    quote:
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    @Servius

    Your local puter repair shop could do it for you. TPM installation is a bit involved.

    www.pugetsystems.com/labs/support-hardware/Trusted-Platform-Modules-and-How-To-Use-Them-1814/

    [Edited by CyPHeR369, 6/27/2021 4:59:06 PM]

    Al be checking my bios. But if I do need one it's a certain one from MSI I need. But trying to source that is hell from what I see. I might just not upgrade to win 11. Don't know. The CPU n MOBO will be about 5 years old when it comes to Win10 EOL. Heck by then the requirement for tpm may not be needed. Al see. What happens when I check the bios.

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    JB_1981 posted on Jun 28, 2021 9:15:29 AM - Report post
     
    I never thought the TPM thing would be such a huge deal, but I do have a MOBO that was made in November 2019 (Gigabyte 570), so I guess it's new enough to have it built-in. Heck when I bought the mobo I never even thought of Microsoft requiring TPM.. just hope this new OS is worth the headache.

    [Edited by GroguTheWise, 6/28/2021 9:16:27 AM]

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    PWizard posted on Jun 28, 2021 9:31:34 AM - Report post
     
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    I never thought the TPM thing would be such a huge deal, but I do have a MOBO that was made in November 2019 (Gigabyte 570), so I guess it's new enough to have it built-in. Heck when I bought the mobo I never even thought of Microsoft requiring TPM.. just hope this new OS is worth the headache.

    [Edited by GroguTheWise, 6/28/2021 9:16:27 AM]

    Don't assume that. My mobo was made in 2021 and doesn't have the chip, only the header for one.

    [Edited by PWizard, 6/28/2021 9:31:57 AM]

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