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Posted: Sep 14, 2013 11:53:04 PM - Report post  (4)  (3)       Post Reply  post reply  

Yep that says it all. As a long time Total War fan I cannot any more support CA. I know SEGA cracked that whip for CA to make it in 2 years but come on grow a pair of balls and say to SEGA its NOT DONE. For those who have not seen a real review please go to AngryJoe and watch it. Its what everyone is thinking about the epic fail of a game.
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Posted: Sep 15, 2013 12:21:25 AM - Report post  (3)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

Whilst nobody's disagreeing with the fact that the game released in a terrible state, this is just overreacting.

Be ****ed off, sure, but all it boils down to is that we get the 'finished' game a month or two later than usual, and considering how Total War games give me hundreds of hours of entertainment for the same price many 5-10 hour games cost, I'd say it's still worth it, regardless of how annoying a buggy release is.

Just chill out a bit, it's not the end of the world.

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Posted: Sep 15, 2013 6:54:07 AM - Report post  (1)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

agreed.. not the end of the world, but neither should we as a playerbase forgive these kind of transgressions easily. The reason we get games buggy like this is BECAUSE we reward them for it by pre-ordering and buying regardless of its state.

For this game particularly tho, i do want to love it, and have played it extensively, til they patched it to breaking for me lol. but i have to say tha tit stil ldoesnt .. feel.. right. thats not a fact, jkust my opinion!. Also bear in mind..

Angry joes review was done fairly early on. many of the bugs mentioned has i nfact already been fixed, and come monday maybe they fix some **** they broke in the earlier fixes haha.

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Posted: Sep 15, 2013 8:36:41 AM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

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Yep that says it all. As a long time Total War fan I cannot any more support CA. I know SEGA cracked that whip for CA to make it in 2 years but come on grow a pair of balls and say to SEGA its NOT DONE. For those who have not seen a real review please go to AngryJoe and watch it. Its what everyone is thinking about the epic fail of a game.

it dont work that way... if they dont finish it when sega says so they will be hit with fines and/or lawsuits that can lead to liquidations of the company and sega would find some else to do it for them.

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Posted: Sep 15, 2013 9:30:52 AM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

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Yep that says it all. As a long time Total War fan I cannot any more support CA. I know SEGA cracked that whip for CA to make it in 2 years but come on grow a pair of balls and say to SEGA its NOT DONE. For those who have not seen a real review please go to AngryJoe and watch it. Its what everyone is thinking about the epic fail of a game.

it dont work that way... if they dont finish it when sega says so they will be hit with fines and/or lawsuits that can lead to liquidations of the company and sega would find some else to do it for them.

You are working under the premise that Creative Assembly is working under a licensing agreement through SEGA as publisher...

That however is not the case, Creative Assembly is a wholly owned entity as of March 2005, so SEGA does indeed "crack the whip".

As such, Total War games have seen a noticeable decline in overall polish since the last "true" Creative Assembly Total War release (Rome: Total War). It's not any matter of graphical quality, I mean general stability and and overall functionality of the code, AI, and how the game actually does the mechanical niceties necessary to bring a game to the screen.

For instance even such obvious things as resource balancing was apparently never properly tested, as food and squalor issues are so prevalent that CA/SEGA are going to patch the game quite soon one a key adjustment is in that area.

I will be the first to say that there are many people that have far more pressing and serious concerns with just getting the game to function, and I do not diminish their woes in any way.

To add to that aggravation, even if they were to get into the game, they would quickly find out that apparently large fields of wheat cause a tremendous amount of squalor... Yeah, all those darn plants are the problem, not the tens of thousands of people crapping in the streets into open sewage channels on either side of the road...

CA was rushed by SEGA, and SEGA was rushed by the almighty dollar, to crank out the game on a quarterly profit-call time-table rather than allowing the game to at least be tested internally some more.

Frankly, in this day and age, to not have some sort of modest and then large scale closed beta, followed by a very large open beta for a game of this size and potential complexity and combination of scenarios is mind boggling.

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Posted: Sep 15, 2013 1:23:37 PM - Report post  (2)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

Well its not the end of the world but I did not spend my hard earned money on a product that was not finished. Do you buy a house with no roof? car with no engine? then why do we have to put up with crapy unfinished games? so there should be a lemon law or a law saying you have 7 days to return games that you do not want or just not the game that they advertise . Its your money and you should have the right to return anything you buy with your money. And maybe if they do allow to return games maybe this patch the game every week till fixed will be done with crapy unfinished games.

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Posted: Sep 15, 2013 1:24:56 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

There is no possible way a game developer can produce a game that will work right on every system right off the bat, there are a infinite number of hardware and software configurations..
Give them a break..
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Posted: Sep 15, 2013 2:08:49 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

NO No break. I understand the PC ever PC is unique. But to give them a pass? that's a NO. Go to AngyJoe again and get a great review of Rome 2 and see what they could have done. I know you cannot have a perfect game but they can do so much better and if you just say give them a break, NO they do not get one.
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