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Steven283  posted on Feb 15, 2012 5:50:52 AM - Report post

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I guess I shouldn't complain too much about Origin. At least they let us play games offline. Unlike Blizzard with their Diablo 3 crap!
 
Blimp  posted on Feb 15, 2012 6:31:39 AM - Report post

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Really now? Too bad I won't be buying (Or playing) Mass Effect 3 then. EA wants to hurt the end users by pulling the whole "We dictate how, when, where, and who plays our games", then I say they don't deserve my money. I'll wait until it's a bargain bin title for sure. EA has done nothing but grab for every dollar sign it can, and I'm glad it's not on Steam, because that gives me an excuse to forget it exists.

Sorry Bioware, but EA isn't getting my money, and it's unfortunate your most promising IPs are suffering for it.

Agree, also I don´t like spys... Mind you I have never downloaded a pirate copy of ANYTHING, I´ve always been able to afford games (since the old commodore days btw). However, I deleted Reconing from my pc, not because it was -imho- a bad game, but because I had to download multicrap from Origin just to start my retailcopy... Nope, no sire and as a consequence, cancelled my preorder of ME3 *sigh* Oh, these dam principles one lives under..
/Chris

Aah, I think I´ll start up a god old Might & Magic game to cleanse my mind from modern world worries

 
ServiusTheBear  posted on Feb 15, 2012 7:46:38 AM - Report post

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I have no issues with having to use origin at all. Also they cant go through your system without you giving them access. Meaning just connecting dose not give them rights to remote access your system. All Origin is. Is another DL program nothing less nothing more it dose not install spying at all.

All tho I do Hate EA with a passion lol

[Edited by ServiusTheBear, 2/15/2012 7:48:35 AM]

 
Shotgunmaniac  posted on Feb 15, 2012 12:50:06 PM - Report post

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I have no issues with having to use origin at all. Also they cant go through your system without you giving them access. Meaning just connecting dose not give them rights to remote access your system. All Origin is. Is another DL program nothing less nothing more it dose not install spying at all.

All tho I do Hate EA with a passion lol

[Edited by ServiusTheBear, 2/15/2012 7:48:35 AM]

That's the problem - it's not remote access or anything, but their TOS specifically stated they could scan non-Origin programs installed on PCs it was run on, ostensibly to "offer consumers products they would be most interested in."

If you replace the sticky keys program in your Windows folder with the command line program, you can hit shift five times at the login screen - without ever logging in - and have total root access. So thinking someone else cannot go through your system is a pretty severe mistake in security.

 
sleepingsecret  posted on Feb 15, 2012 1:03:56 PM - Report post

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Well, I seriously do not know why people hate Origins so bad. Steam does the same exact **** but praises for Steam. Steam can and does scan your system, its TOS also states that it can do a lot of things. Steam also dictates how, when, where, and who plays the games on steam. You cannot play a game that uses Steam any other way unless steam is open, running, and for some people, if you have an Internet connection. Try playing Skyrim without steam running and it won't let you. Some places can't even get some games that other places can.

Also, Reckoning IS on Steam....I have it on Steam.

 
Skyheart  posted on Feb 15, 2012 1:11:39 PM - Report post

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Any program you install on your computer can potentially scan your system and everything on it. Saying that something does doesn't make it so. Steam doesn't scan your system to see what's there. Don't pull "facts" out of thin air to justify your argument.

Also, the only way Steam "dictates how, when, where and who" plays games on its system, the only time you can't play games is if it can't access the Steam servers for verification, which you can easily get around by setting all of your games to "play offline" as soon as you buy them. As for where and who, I don't see how you can use that one. "Who" is you - the person who bought the game. "Where" is no different than any other DRM in existance, where in most cases you have a set number of installs on different machines.

 
Shotgunmaniac  posted on Feb 15, 2012 1:34:33 PM - Report post

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Well, I seriously do not know why people hate Origins so bad. Steam does the same exact **** but praises for Steam. Steam can and does scan your system, its TOS also states that it can do a lot of things. Steam also dictates how, when, where, and who plays the games on steam. You cannot play a game that uses Steam any other way unless steam is open, running, and for some people, if you have an Internet connection. Try playing Skyrim without steam running and it won't let you. Some places can't even get some games that other places can.

Also, Reckoning IS on Steam....I have it on Steam.

You can use no-CDs that are made for most retail games with Steam games immediately after install and activation if you really don't want to run Steam itself - but most people prefer to run pretty much everything they can through it for the overlay and such.

Otherwise, Steam only actively looks for anything on your system when you browse your folders to add a non-Steam game to your library or if you're playing a VAC protected game on a server with it enabled for protection. And that will mostly just look for active processes and such, so you know.

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Any program you install on your computer can potentially scan your system and everything on it. Saying that something does doesn't make it so. Steam doesn't scan your system to see what's there. Don't pull "facts" out of thin air to justify your argument.
Also, the only way Steam "dictates how, when, where and who" plays games on its system, the only time you can't play games is if it can't access the Steam servers for verification, which you can easily get around by setting all of your games to "play offline" as soon as you buy them. As for where and who, I don't see how you can use that one. "Who" is you - the person who bought the game. "Where" is no different than any other DRM in existance, where in most cases you have a set number of installs on different machines.


Thank the lawd! I do so enjoy your aid. Even if you intend otherwise.

 
ServiusTheBear  posted on Feb 15, 2012 1:40:53 PM - Report post

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I just looked and I could not see anything stating about scaning systems.

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[Edited by ServiusTheBear, 2/15/2012 1:43:44 PM]

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