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Game is out, a trainer is on the way or?
 
IamFreeman  posted on Aug 23, 2010 2:07:09 PM - Report post

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Yes, it's true, the release scene is out !

Can't wait a trainer guys........


P.S : and the game is amazing !

[Edited by IamFreeman, 8/23/2010 2:08:27 PM]

 
kein92  posted on Aug 23, 2010 2:12:32 PM - Report post

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@mizax -- Not sure what you are referring to, but we have no "official stance" on pre-release trainers or games or otherwise. As far as this topic goes the original poster said that the game was "out" and then said that the release dates were 24th and 27th. So, how is the game OUT if the dates are not met? Like always, we will release a trainer when WE get the game whether it's prior to the release date or not. We have ALWAYS done this. As far as CheatScapes goes, we have no control over other authors releasing trainers for certain games. It is possible (GASP!) that someone on the planet gets a hold of the game before we do.

I have the game so if you need any executables or anything send me a pm and I'll give you the files you need.

 
mozziethegreat  posted on Aug 23, 2010 2:19:14 PM - Report post

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Gday its the 24th here today (Australia) & EB games has the game i did Pre-order i cant wait for it !!! any Trainer whould be GREAT thanking you in Advance
 
PeTTs0n  posted on Aug 23, 2010 5:02:33 PM - Report post

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No, there is no scene release out - only cheap homemade (beta/demo "cracks" ) versions. (Which, potentially, could use the same trainers as the retail version when it comes, still, that's not an excuse to pretend this and that about the retail version. This trainer is for any unauthorized version out in the wild atm. Quite funny, people have already confirmed it works for them on the "cracked" versions.) Ironic that CH would make a trainer for it - while they still claim to despise piracy.

There's no one that has got a genuine release before the 24th - not reviewers, not stores, no one (except for perhaps Steam server personnel, who'd doubtless be sacked quick as hell should they leak anything). If you'd have any insight into how Steam as a company and the Steam server parks works you'd know this. (Same thing with EVERY Steam release for quite a while back.)

And for the record - the Australian release date is August 26th.

[Edited by PeTTs0n, 8/23/2010 5:14:58 PM]

 
PWizard  posted on Aug 23, 2010 5:10:00 PM - Report post

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Wow, Pettson, so according to you, us AND all of these respectable review websites have pirated the game?

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PeTTs0n  posted on Aug 23, 2010 5:15:17 PM - Report post

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Wow, Pettson, so according to you, us AND all of these respectable review websites have pirated the game?

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Ever heard of early builds? It's often (to say the least) not the final version of a game sent out to reviewers.

Of course, it's theoretically possible that you have a contact within Steam who provides you with the retail copy - although somehow I doubt that.

I'm not trying to question your methods of getting games - that's up to you. But as the trainer apparently works for "cracked" releases of the game (no, I'm not going to link you to forums proving it - you all know how to use Google, right?) - which uses an altered demo/beta executable - this adds to the unlikeliness of a retail release.

But as I said - I only doubt the authencity of a copy getting out to a complete non-related site (reviewers is one thing, trainer makers a whole 'nother story) and especially of a game distributed solely by Steam - which requires the decryption of essential game files to work. These are only released on the corresponding release dates to customers in respective countries. Just saying.

[Edited by PeTTs0n, 8/23/2010 5:21:10 PM]

 
PWizard  posted on Aug 23, 2010 5:19:25 PM - Report post

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Ever heard of press copies? Game companies don't want reviews based on early builds of games, that's what PREVIEWS are for. You can't have a game reviewed that doesn't represent what the end user will purchase.

[Edited by moderator PWizard, 8/23/2010 5:21:05 PM]

 
PeTTs0n  posted on Aug 23, 2010 5:28:18 PM - Report post

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Ever heard of press copies? Game companies don't want reviews based on early builds of games, that's what PREVIEWS are for. You can't have a game reviewed that doesn't represent what the end user will purchase.

[Edited by moderator PWizard, 8/23/2010 5:21:05 PM]

Fair enough - yes, in some cases review copies are retail versions sent out a few days early. It's not uncommon for game companies to give earlier builds to reviewers though. (Happens quite often - these are sometimes released into the P2P ether - whereas true scene groups always use (or should use, according to their underworld rules) retail copies or leaks of them.)

Nevermind - I was trying to push the issue harder than you might; even if *you* have a genuine copy, doesn't mean anyone else does, with the possible exception of reviewers, (since the release date hasn't been reached yet) - if you want to take a stand, avoid releasing trainers for a game that is not yet officially released. That's the only thing that caught my attention.

While perhaps not hypocritical per se, it's still smells a little fishy - and it's not like customers of the game will mind, since they wont have the game til' release anyway.

Take care guys.

As a footnote - the reviews mentioned (even if posted in the PC section - the Xbox 360 and PC version of Mafia 2 is virtually identical, for example.) can be based on X360 or PS3 releases, which follow a different cycle. (Since they're rarely online distributed only.)

[Edited by PeTTs0n, 8/23/2010 5:32:23 PM]

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