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Locked Topic  Way to go Israel, way to go.
 
Night-Ghost  posted on Jun 03, 2010 4:17:37 AM - Report post

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True what Rami said.

I bet most of the people on the other side of this world don't actually get to see the type of "abuse",as some prefer to call it, that Isreal people practice daily at Palestine's people. You see what your media wants you to see.

Ok, some people are saying that it's not legal to go through a blockade. Alright, well I don't even think that it's "legal" that Isreal can do what they do in Ghaza. If we go back to the base of this problem it's the bloackade mainly. I mean come on, no medicens are allowed? Few amounts of food and water? No light?

The idea of the Freedom Flotilla was some people feeling bad for the poor people getting killed everyday by death of hunger or Isreal killing them, and got the idea of splying the people over there with whatever. The ships have been searched after the incedent by Isreal. And NO sort of weapons were found, news prove that.

Isreal can do whatever they set their minds to, since they're Isreal and Palestine will be the wrong side at the end despiting whatever.
Also i'm sure you wouldn't have liked it if it was your country.

[Edited by Night-Ghost, 6/3/2010 4:28:25 AM]

 
latios_power  posted on Jun 03, 2010 5:05:15 AM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by Neo7

"No one ever goes into battle thinking God is on the other side."
-Terry Goodkind

That has nothing to do with what happened, don't tell me you call attacking a ship with civilians in it WAR...

 
bonzay0  posted on Jun 03, 2010 5:41:32 AM - Report post

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I know what the Arabs countries does to my country
and what my country does back, both aren't doing any good...
no side can really claim that he is the innocent one.
I hate this situation, why can't Israel and the Arabs countries
get along... (all the time the stupid argument on the land)
I'm not naive I just want to live in peace.
 
ZS  posted on Jun 03, 2010 6:19:14 AM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by potato_chips

quote:
originally posted by Neo7

"No one ever goes into battle thinking God is on the other side."
-Terry Goodkind

Love his books


So far from the anti-Israel side of this I've yet to see anything forming a valid argument, just people saying stuff like "you dont know what its really like" or "your media is lying" or "this happened before they boarded" etc

Israel has offered proof, in the form of video, that the commando's were attacked.

Can someone offer some form of proof that they fired first?


Okay you have Haneen Zoubi's testament from inside the Knesset, then she was threatened to be charged with high treason. Just because she said her side of the story. If you haven't heard or seen the clips, just Google it or something.

 
SuperSkyline89  posted on Jun 03, 2010 10:35:15 AM - Report post

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Israel has peace treaties with both Egypt and Jordan. Two neighbouring countries that it used to be at war with. Making peace twice is no coincidence, clearly Israel as well as both Egypt and Jordan wanted peace and were willing to do what was necessary to get there. So why would a country that was able to make peace with two neighbours not be able to make peace with others?

As for the world being against the other countries because of our media. Search Google for the Hamas Charter, it's full of antisemitism.

quote:
originally posted by Yale Law School - Lillian Goldman Law Library

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."
- Hamas Charter

quote:
originally posted by Yale Law School - Lillian Goldman Law Library

You may speak as much as you want about regional and world wars. They were behind World War I, when they were able to destroy the Islamic Caliphate, making financial gains and controlling resources. They obtained the Balfour Declaration, formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains by trading in armaments, and paved the way for the establishment of their state. It was they who instigated the replacement of the League of Nations with the United Nations and the Security Council to enable them to rule the world through them. There is no war going on anywhere, without having their finger in it.
- Hamas Charter

quote:
originally posted by Yale Law School - Lillian Goldman Law Library

Today it is Palestine, tomorrow it will be one country or another. The Zionist plan is limitless. After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying.
- Hamas Charter

This is some of the most twisted garbage I've ever read. To claim that the Jews secretly planned the Holocaust just to get a patch of what apparently used to be desert and marsh. Oh, and this "Islamic Caliphate" that they contracted the whole world to destroy in WWI, I suggest Googling that for anyone that wants their daily dose of hypocriticalness, especially after reading the third quote above.

You don't need the media to see what's going on in the world. But wait, the Jews created the internet! They probably planted all this stuff there so I would find it! They probably have a hidden camera in my laptop and are watching me right now!

 
Night-Ghost  posted on Jun 03, 2010 12:22:38 PM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by SuperSkyline89

Israel has peace treaties with both Egypt and Jordan. Two neighbouring countries that it used to be at war with. Making peace twice is no coincidence, clearly Israel as well as both Egypt and Jordan wanted peace and were willing to do what was necessary to get there. So why would a country that was able to make peace with two neighbours not be able to make peace with others?

As for the world being against the other countries because of our media. Search Google for the Hamas Charter, it's full of antisemitism.

quote:
originally posted by Yale Law School - Lillian Goldman Law Library

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."
- Hamas Charter

quote:
originally posted by Yale Law School - Lillian Goldman Law Library

You may speak as much as you want about regional and world wars. They were behind World War I, when they were able to destroy the Islamic Caliphate, making financial gains and controlling resources. They obtained the Balfour Declaration, formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains by trading in armaments, and paved the way for the establishment of their state. It was they who instigated the replacement of the League of Nations with the United Nations and the Security Council to enable them to rule the world through them. There is no war going on anywhere, without having their finger in it.
- Hamas Charter

quote:
originally posted by Yale Law School - Lillian Goldman Law Library

Today it is Palestine, tomorrow it will be one country or another. The Zionist plan is limitless. After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying.
- Hamas Charter

This is some of the most twisted garbage I've ever read. To claim that the Jews secretly planned the Holocaust just to get a patch of what apparently used to be desert and marsh. Oh, and this "Islamic Caliphate" that they contracted the whole world to destroy in WWI, I suggest Googling that for anyone that wants their daily dose of hypocriticalness, especially after reading the third quote above.

You don't need the media to see what's going on in the world. But wait, the Jews created the internet! They probably planted all this stuff there so I would find it! They probably have a hidden camera in my laptop and are watching me right now!

I suggest you study some history or give it some extra re-searches before claiming that Isreal is the innocent county who gets attacked by arabs everyday.
And that Isreal never tried to attack any arabian countries around it in the past year. Nope, Not Isreal.

And no it was not a "desert". Everything that's arabian property was and is a desert right skyline?

Everything that's mentioned above is correct, but I guess you're not a fan of history.

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iNTANGiBLE  posted on Jun 03, 2010 12:42:18 PM - Report post

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Well Israel "existed" from 1948 in PALESTINE. Palestine was long time ago before that!
 
SuperSkyline89  posted on Jun 03, 2010 5:35:36 PM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by Night-Ghost

I suggest you study some history or give it some extra re-searches before claiming that Isreal is the innocent county who gets attacked by arabs everyday.
And that Isreal never tried to attack any arabian countries around it in the past year. Nope, Not Isreal.

And no it was not a "desert". Everything that's arabian property was and is a desert right skyline?

Everything that's mentioned above is correct, but I guess you're not a fan of history.

"In November 1947, the United Nations voted in favor of the partition of Palestine, proposing the creation of a Jewish state, an Arab state, and a UN-administered Jerusalem. Partition was accepted by Zionist leaders but rejected by Arab leaders, leading to civil war. Israel declared independence on 14 May 1948 and neighboring Arab states attacked the next day. Since then, Israel has fought a series of wars with neighboring Arab states"

"Between 1880 and 1914 over sixty thousand Jews entered Palestine, mostly from Russia, Galicia, Romania and Poland. The victims of persecution and discrimination, they sought a new homeland and a new security under Turkish rule. Many settled on wasteland, sand-dunes and malarial marsh, which they then drained, irrigated and farmed."

Like I said, marsh and desert. Oh, and how about pointing out where exactly I said Israel "never tried to attack any arabian countries around it in the past year" as you put it. I'll wait, might take a long time since I never said that.

Sources
- "United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181", The Avalon Project (Yale University), 29 November 1947, www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/un/res181.htm, retrieved 21 August 2007

- Gilbert, Martín (2005), The Routledge Atlas of the Arab-Israeli Conflict, Routledge, pp. 200, ISBN 978-0415359009

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