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Posted: Feb 18, 2010 2:32:32 AM - Report post  (0)  (0)       This topic is locked   post reply 

First of all, if you BOUGHT THE GAME, regardless of WHERE, then you should be using the STEAM trainer. This game goes through Steam and updates through Steam. Make sure you have updated to the most recent version and use the STEAM trainer. Using the retail trainer will crash/freeze your game.

Second, if you're using the 'no-cd fix' you should be using the one by RZR, not RLD. If you're using the no-cd fix then you must use the RETAIL trainer.

If you're having problems with crashes/freezes with the STEAM trainer, the issue is that the game has implemented a GFWL type cheat protection which actively checks for any cheats ALL THROUGHOUT the game. We have found and disabled over 30 of these checks so far. If any of these checks find you cheating, the game will freeze or crash. Some of these checks are tied to certain pieces of the game code, for example, clicking this menu item, pressing that gamepad button, etc. We cannot possibly test every single scenario where these checks might take place. Our recommendations is to load the game, activate the trainer, start a new game (or load save), activate the options and play. Do not over-activate options when not necessary.

We are continuing to look at this game and trying to disable more of these checks. Please note that these checks do not exist in the no-cd fix version of the game.

If you are experiencing a freeze/crash, do this:

1. RE-DOWNLOAD THE TRAINER. We have updated it over 6 times so far and will continue to update it. Make sure you're using the most recent version.

2. Post a savegame along with EXACT re-create instructions so that we can easily replicate the problem. DO NOT POST A COMPLAINT WITHOUT POSTING A SAVEGAME. YOUR POST WILL BE DELETED! Make sure you mention if using DX9 or DX11 and your OS.

3. Make sure you've read the NEW trainer troubleshooting guide (Link). There are new entries, dealing specifically with h4x0r malware that should be read and addressed.

4. This trainer uses a new security template. Even if previous trainers worked fine, FOLLOW THE TROUBLESHOOTING GUIDE! Disable AV, Run as Administrator, etc.

5. Try starting a NEW GAME or restarting a mission if you're having trouble loading a previous save.

6. Try alternate DX version. If having trouble with DX11, try DX9.

Please understand that we are trying our best to create a stable trainer for those people that legitimately purchased this game. We could have taken the easy way out and only trained the unprotected no-cd version like other trainer makers, but we did not. The no-cd version of the game is OUTDATED and incomplete. You can compare the two and easily see this. There are new graphics options in the STEAM version and it's also more stable in DX11 configurations. We have spent well over 30 hours working on this game so far. 1 hour on the RETAIL version and 29 on the STEAM version. We will continue working on it, but at some point we have to get to other trainers and updates in the queue.

Please help us by posting USEFUL comments. Telling us that so and so doesn't work in so and so mission does not help us. We haven't had time to play through the entire game with each character type as we have been chasing down protection checks.

I appreciate everyone's patience and understanding as these game developers continue to make it more difficult to CHEAT IN SINGLE PLAYER GAMES.

[Edited by PWizard, 3/30/2010 3:02:03 PM]

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Posted: Feb 18, 2010 2:36:52 AM - Report post  (0)  (0)       This topic is locked   post reply 

I forgot to mention that posting any trainer related complaints or comments outside of this thread will result in your messages being deleted without notice. We cannot track messages posted outside of this thread.
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Posted: Feb 18, 2010 3:03:29 AM - Report post  (0)  (0)       This topic is locked   post reply 

Unsure if it's useful but I noticed that the AvP.exe file updates itself after first being started, re-verifying the content cache in Steam will redownload the old exe but once it's run it'll create some temp file and then update, old version is around 7419 Kb whereas the updated one is 7422 Kb, perhaps that's causing some of the reported issues with the trainer?
(I have no idea what it does, the DX11 exe seems untouched though, doesn't seem lik a normal patch either.)

I'd say the Steam exe is more stable (Game doesn't crash or behave oddly in sound related tasks when using over 48 Khz frequency for example.) but I guess the potential "checks" in it would make the trainer more compatible with the nocd EXE.

Nice work on the trainer, haven't tested it much (Two levels per "campaign" but there's been no problems with it, there's a slight issue in the Predator starting level where it expects you to take damage and use a health hypo and a similar one in the Marine campaign so activating infinite health is best done after this. (Right at the start anyway so it shouldn't be a problem.)

Wonder if this game will be as "patched" as Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 is, mini updates for security instead of actual patches or similar.

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The crack by Razor 1911 is not a no DVD fix. It is non STEAM crack, so I wonder why they have seperate codings.
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I'm not sure why but the energy option for the Predator doesn't prevent the suit energy from going down.

The other options work fine although it crashes if you have the infinite items/ammo cheat on while certain scripted events are happening e.g. killing the alien mother in the refinery or delivering the final blow to bosses.

I'll attempt to download the trainer if that helps or wait for a trainer update.

Thanks for this great trainer regardless though!

Edit: I'm using Windows 7 as my OS and DX11 for the game in question. Since the game works fine otherwise I'm not sure if adding a savegame will help aside from the above issues posted.

Again thank you for taking the time to put this trainer together CH!

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Ive been having the no "Activated" problem. Ive been reading through the forums and the troubleshooting guide but wanted to make sure if I missed anything. Tried running as admin, tried both versions of the trainer, tried using rzr crack, compatibility with WinXP and WinVista (I have Win7 64 bit Ulti by the way), turned of Kaspersky and killed all relevant processes, I dont have an F lock, tried running game first then trainer, tried using dx9 and dx11 exes of the the game and even Razor cracks, all other CH trainers are working fine. Because of everything I tried, im led to believe that a dll or something else is interfering with the trainer but i cant find any of the dlls for h4x0r trainers nor do I remember using any. Any ideas?

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Same problem than you. Very annoying.
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Posted: Feb 18, 2010 5:39:27 AM - Report post  (0)  (0)       This topic is locked   post reply 

@Seeker012 -- retail or steam trainer?

Others -- if trainer is not activating when you press F1 then something is blocking it. Some AV and security software runs as a windows service and cannot simply be 'turned off'. You may have to disable the service, add an exception to your AV rules or uninstall the AV altogether to rule it out.

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