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Posted: Aug 23, 2008 5:32:59 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       This topic is locked   post reply 

 originally posted by Dezzy123:

You dont get it.
I didnt have a virus prior to this,I didnt download anything that day, scan was done the day before because I was scared I downloaded something bad that was totally different situation.
Turned out to be nothing. Had two trojans, removed em. The usual no hassle.

After this, computer.. explosion.

I dont randomly surf, I dont open random links, my computer was up to date, everything checked out OKIE DOKIE.

This is a big deal to me and i've thought about this while my computer is being ripped apart by people who know what they're doing.

My computer prior to download/running
My computer after download/running
My computer after restart
100%...... Doom

I dont care how many people could have downloaded this crap.
After running this at fine condition my good quality computer literally commited suicide due to some kind of major file corruption.

[Edited by Dezzy123, 8/23/2008 5:29:29 PM]

Exactly you think, you have no actual proof...

I am done trying to convince you.... Ive told you every fact that proves that CHU in no way caused this. You just cant get it through your mind. If you are mad at CHU then just leave, your the one who trusted this place, gave them your money for UNL, so just go ahead and leave the site.

Since I was not able to convince you im pretty sure the only thing that will convince you is a Locked topic...

Like i said if your going to be a jerk to the people who are trying to help, dont expect any help at all. Im done attempting to help you...

[Edited by tmh32293, 8/23/2008 5:50:23 PM]

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Posted: Aug 23, 2008 5:44:59 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       This topic is locked   post reply 

I just want to be in peace, knowing what caused my 3 thousand dollar computer protected with the best anti virus and a suspicious owner behind the keyboard to unexpectedly explode. Give up in such a way that the people who are fixing it, are completely baffled.
If this didnt do it, and I had no viruses. What gave my computer reason to give me an error that had the name of the trainer I had turned on...?
If you can give me any LEADS on WHAT did this - that might suffice for now.
Dont tell me its a virus - the techies have almost ruled that out themselves.
I have like 2 or 3 people trying to work this out by the way.
If its such a rare issue why cant you just bring it to yourself to consider the possibility?
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Posted: Aug 23, 2008 6:10:21 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       This topic is locked   post reply 

1. If you cannot tell us exactly what the error is, there is little way of knowing the cause

2. How are we supposed to provide leads on this? We weren't there when it crashed, we dont know what else you have on your computer, and you didnt even note down what exactly it was telling you.

3. Trainers may crash games once in a while, but not computers. They alter game files. Game files are not essential to the running of a computer.

If you cannot prove it was the Trainer which crashed your computer, then we cannot just take your word that it was.

As for anti virus protection, well you can NEVER 100% protect your computer unless you just dont ever connect to the internet.

If you do think of anymore details of what happened, or find any proof at all, you are welcome to make another topic

[Edited by potato_chips, 8/23/2008 6:15:36 PM]

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Posted: Aug 23, 2008 7:31:36 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       This topic is locked   post reply 

I honestly suspect HD disk failure. Unless I get any proof otherwise, thats going to be my diagnosis.
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Posted: Aug 23, 2008 8:24:59 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       This topic is locked   post reply 

I just wanted to chime in here. I am a MCSE and have been a computer technician for over 10 years. I can guarantee you that the trainer itself did not cause your computer to malfunction. And I'm not just telling you this because it's our software being blamed, I would tell you the same if it was a bowling simulator or recipe database that you thought caused your problem. There is no malicious code in the trainer(s) and certainly nothing that could cause a physical problem to occur with a piece of your computer's hardware. Disk corruption can occur at any time and by any piece of software (or for a multitude of other reasons). The worst the trainer could have done is caused a protection fault or error within the game (since it's writing to the memory of another process), but Windows is designed to deal with those types of errors and recover. The game itself could have caused an error within a driver or something and caused the computer to bluescreen which could have corrupted a critical portion of the MFT or files that were open and in use at the time the crash occurred. Again, Windows is designed and is typically pretty good at recovering from these types of issues. Otherwise every little crash would cause the system to be un-bootable. I could go on and on. I've had plenty of hardware failures in my life and I've diagnosed and fixed thousands more. I, of course, can only speculate as to what your problem might be and no one may ever be able to tell you EXACTLY what happended unless it was an internal hardware failure. If it's merely a software issue then system restore or a recent backup should be able to help you recover.

Computers are not perfect, computer programs are not perfect. Errors can and will occur. All you can do it protect yourself by doing regular backups of your data. Major file corruption or disk corruption is typically caused by a problem within the disk (such as bad sectors) or within the file structure. Windows itself protects it's critical files from being tampered with by 3rd party software such as trainers or whatever else. Otherwise any ol program you download could be malicious and cause an instant bluescreen.

I mostly just wanted to reassure you and everyone else here that the trainer did not and could not cause (directly) a piece of your computer hardware to fail. You could have very easily been playing Tetris when it happened and of course it wouldn't be that program's fault either.

I hope that helps and I'm sorry about your computer issues. Been there many times myself. Good luck on getting it fixed and I'm happy to help answer any additional questions you may have, just PM or email me (chris @

[Edited by PWizard, 8/23/2008 8:49:26 PM]

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Posted: Aug 23, 2008 8:38:01 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       This topic is locked   post reply 

If you have your Windows Installation disk, repairing a looping Windows computer is quite an easy "do-it-yourself" process. It is often caused by a THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER stop message which occurs when a fatal error happens with your Graphics Card Driver (or any driver for that matter).

1. Insert your disk and boot from the CD
2. When prompted to setup Windows, Press "R" to enter the Recovery Console.
3. Log in with your normal username. At the password prompt, enter your password (if you do not use a password, then press enter without typing anything).
4. Enter this command: FIXBOOT C:\
5. Restart your computer.

1. Insert your disk and boot from the CD
2. When the setup has loaded and displays "Install Now", click on the "Repair your computer" in the bottom left corner.
3. Click on your Vista installation.
4. From the WinRE options, select "Repair startup issues"
5. This process is automated and will restart once finished.

More information on the error:

[Edited by Neo7, 8/23/2008 8:43:16 PM]

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