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im at the end of the pokemon leahge and i dont know what to do next. none of my pokemon are dead and i already have battled Lance and he beat me. i ws lucky i had saved before i had battled him. i have a suicine lv. 41, 2 typhlosion both are lv. 49,a lugia lv 41, a red gyradoes lv.43, and a meganium lv. 41. one typhlosion,my suicine, and my gyradoes have full hp and the rest have maybe about 50 or 60 hp taken away. can anybody tell me some ideas to beat Lance?

[Edited by maverick102, 2/14/2006 1:55:47 PM]

I dont think theres really any way for your team to beat him. All your pokemon are elementals which does just about no damage to his Dragonites. It's easy to take him out with lvl 40 pokemon if they were raised well and have decent moves.

If you have the blizzard TM, you can teach it to one of your higher level pokemon and hope it hits and wipes out each of his Dragonites. Aerodactyl and Charizard should be easily take down by you 2 water pokemon, plus Lugia, who can learn surf.

Throw Meganium at his Gyrados, although it won't be an easy fight since Gyarados is Water/Flying so Grass isn't super-effective.

To beat Lance's Dragonites you need:
- Safegaurd. To counter thunder wave.
- Ideally an Ice-type move. Ice beam being the best choice since Blizzard is notoriosly inaccurate.
- Physicall attacks. Ideally a rock slide or ancient power, but normal moves will do. Just avoid water, fire, and grass.
- If your Gyarados knows any dragon-type moves, they will help you out a lot.
- Inflict status pain, especially confusion or paralysis.
- You Typhlosions are not of any worth in this battle, so throw them heedlessly at the Dragonites to wear them down. Beware, however, that Lance will use max potions or hyper potions.
- Dragonite has the highest physical attack so reflect would be nice.


Useful combos:
>> Raindance - Thunder <-- all of his pokemon are part-Flying
>> Defense curl - Rollout
>> Mint berry - Rest
>> Sunny day - Solarbeam
>> Mean Look - Toxic <-- this can take anyone out

what tm are blizzard and ice beam and wear can you get them? also i have a feraligator lv. 36 and it knows ice punch. would that be any good?

nope @ feraligatr. change to ice beam.

blizzard : tm 14 - Found at Goldenrod Game Corner for 5500 coins

ice beam : trade your coins to ask the man outside the goldenrod game corner(he only appears when you defeat the elite 4 & on wednesday and saturday) the man only teach @ one time. the moves are ice beam, flamethrower, thunderbolt

is there any where else i can find ice beam? because im trying to get so that i can beat the elite four.and also where can you find the tm thunder and would ditto be a good pokemon if raised to a high lv. so like dragon vs. dragon?

[Edited by maverick102, 2/16/2006 12:46:57 PM]

no. it doesnt matter wut the type of the pkmn is, just the type of the move. although if the pkmn type and the move type are the same u get STAB (same type attack bonus) which multiplies your damage by 1.5

see my "team building" thred (page 3?) for the exact damage formula.

[Edited by athotboy5050, 2/18/2006 11:15:02 AM]