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Uncomfortable Using Your Trainers
 
Ratsneve  posted on Apr 29, 2014 7:04:46 PM - Report post

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I'm becoming increasingly uncomfortable using your trainers with Steam titles even if I only play single-player or offline?

I read that Steam's VAC can detect a cheat in a saved game and weeks later that game can be banned?

Is there any way I can apply your trainers in a fashion to feel safe to avoid getting a game banned?

Thanks.

 
PWizard  posted on Apr 29, 2014 7:11:40 PM - Report post

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We have no control over Steam or VAC. Not all games are VAC enabled. We play all of our games in Steam offline mode and have never received a ban in any game we have trained.
 
Agreed  posted on Apr 29, 2014 7:39:04 PM - Report post

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They are in the business of making a tremendous amount of money. They don't care if you're cheating unless it's a VAC enabled game. They care quite a lot about that, so maybe choose not to cheat in those games should you value your VAC status (it doesn't ban your account or anything, but you only have one shot at being In Good Standing as far as VAC is concerned - and I have played SP for VAC-protected games with a MP component, most recently MW3 and Black Ops 2, but never turned the trainer on in the same session that I go online for what I really think ought to be BLATANTLY OBVIOUS REASONS).

Still VAC in-good-standing. I don't take any special precautions at all regarding any other Steam games, because honestly Valve has a long, long history of not caring what you do with the games so long as you're buying them through Steam. Hence the gigantic mod communities that are tolerated for various games, and then turned into the Steam Workshop - there's a cheat mod or 100 of them for every Steam Workshop game out there

If you want to be as safe as possible, then, yeah, run your games in offline mode. If you just want to be NOT DUMB, don't try to use your single player trainer for a multiplayer, VAC protected instance of the game, for cryin' out loud. And if you don't feel comfortable using the trainers, well, don't let the door hit you too hard...

 
CyPHeR369  posted on Apr 29, 2014 10:23:29 PM - Report post

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been using them for years now, all in online mode (sp only) for hundreds of games, never had prob with VAC or ban on my acct.
 
Ratsneve  posted on Apr 30, 2014 12:56:05 AM - Report post

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I know you don't tell Valve or Steam what to do--but I thought you might have some official understanding. Playing offline and single player sounds pretty safe and makes sense if there is any to be made. And it's probably true that you don't want to mix the two up--once you use the trainer offline in your single player game and make a save game don't play online without the trainer using that saved game.

[Edited by Ratsneve, 4/30/2014 11:30:08 AM]

 
ServiusTheBear  posted on Apr 30, 2014 5:03:19 AM - Report post

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originally posted by Ratsneve

I know you don't tell Valve or Steam what to do--but I thought you might have some official understanding. Playing offline and single player sounds pretty safe and makes sense if there is any to be made. And it's probably true that you don't want to mix the two up--once you use the trainer offline in your single player game and make a save game don't play online without the trainer using that saved game. But I don't track this from VAC.

The only way is to play in offline mode. Also you know that there is risks when you are using a trainer or 3rd party program cheat with.

 
Deadpool  posted on Apr 30, 2014 6:53:14 AM - Report post

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originally posted by CyPHeR369

been using them for years now, all in online mode (sp only) for hundreds of games, never had prob with VAC or ban on my acct.

Same here, cutie pie. I never go into offline mode and I have yet to find a multiplayer I can stand for more than 10 minutes. In effect, I only play single player. Never had an issue. So no grumpy cat face here when it comes to VAC. Hell I don't even know what VAC is.

 
Ratsneve  posted on Apr 30, 2014 11:45:41 AM - Report post

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Thanks for the several thoughts and opinions on this. I haven't needed or in a couple MMO cases been able to use a trainer for months now but just got started with a game where the option is possible.

Contrary to standard trainer instructions if a game/trainer allows it is there any unforeseen problem launching the trainer _after_ launching the game and offline?

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