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mc_swifty  posted on Oct 29, 2013 4:42:55 PM - Report post

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Yes, after almost giving up - I found I was able to change income numbers, but it doesnt affect clubs overall balance. So doesnt really work out.

Sorry for being hard on the trainer, but what is the point in the ability to change numbers in "income" and "expenditure" if the "Balance" in "Summary" doesnt change?

I did as stated, and successfully changed "income" to say that I've had more income.
- However, increasing income, does not give more money to the club in total. I have also tried waiting until after the next month to see if a change would appear, but no dice.

Is it working as intended? Or am I missing something?

[Edited by mc_swifty, 10/29/2013 9:31:54 PM]

 
shaughnessy  posted on Oct 30, 2013 4:11:27 AM - Report post

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@mc_swifty: it's working as intended. You can't change the balance yet, as it's very hard to find in memory. Maybe after the full game comes out it will be easier, who knows. Anyway, editing the income comes handy when dealing with those Fifa Financial Fairplay regulations, or whatever it's called. The game won't ban you from Europe because it won't see that you broke the rules. I think it's somewhere in the competition rules that you can read more about this fifa fairplay reg.


@0x90: did you try to search for cash boosts in cheatengine, or wthatever is that you're using? I mean that you could try adding two managers and then sell a player from one team to another. Maybe CE will find something like cash injection into balance, and not the balance itself? Then you could just program a button in trainer for cash injection, without modifying the balance.

[Edited by shaughnessy, 10/30/2013 4:13:12 AM]

 
0x90  posted on Oct 30, 2013 4:17:26 AM - Report post

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The balance is just a calculation like I said previously.
There are more than THIRTY values that affects your balance (probably even more than hundred, but I've skipped searching for them).
There isn't an easy to do this except setting ALL of them to a specific value so your balance is positive, but that may change any other value you DON'T want it to be changed.
 
Bomgto  posted on Oct 30, 2013 8:41:59 AM - Report post

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wow 2 patch in 2days..... I agree that the income cheat does not change the balance, so what can we do??

I know you are good at making trainer, but I have a question how did the guy in FMRTE do it..

I don't no if you ever use fmrte b4 but they have this thing in financial that people can Edit..

I hope you find something soon lol

 
0x90  posted on Oct 30, 2013 9:03:40 AM - Report post

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I don't know how the guy did it, but I know that it's his only project so he has more time for researching. Please don't make the mistake and expect an ultimate editor with over 3 billion options, I don't have the time to do so.

There are several possiblites of what you can do:
1. Grab CE or any other memory cheating tool and try modifying values on your own.
2. Make some transfers and play around with the values the editor provides, perhaps there is a 'workaround' to get a great balance
3. Take what you got
4. Complain about how useless the current editor is.

Everything is fine except option 4 as I either stop wasting my time on this game then or I'll stop wasting my time on future versions of the game. Sometimes we coders have to make a decision and I made my own by telling you: Leave it as it is, I MIGHT take a look on it when it got patched but you should better not expect it.

 
mc_swifty  posted on Oct 30, 2013 9:16:51 AM - Report post

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"Leave it as it is, I MIGHT take a look on it when it got patched but you should better not expect it."

I know you guys can't do everything people want.
And I certainly hope others understand that fact as well.
I agree that Braca has had alot of time to work on FMRTE, and with you guys working on so many games, it is hard to expect perfection.

Please remember however, that individuals does not speak for everyone wanting your trainers - so please don't start saying stuff like that. I might not be a CEO or a 20 year experienced salesman, but you rely on people wanting your trainers, and saying stuff like that can alienate some of them.

PS. I say this in the highest regard to your community, which I adore and support.

 
0x90  posted on Oct 30, 2013 9:23:19 AM - Report post

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I'm sorry if it sounds harsh, it wasn't meant to be. Just wanted to let you know that you shouldn't expect a "fix" for the balance issue in the future.

If your english is as bad as mine, sometimes you choose the wrong words to explain what you're actually mean.

 
mc_swifty  posted on Oct 30, 2013 10:06:55 AM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by 0x90

I'm sorry if it sounds harsh, it wasn't meant to be. Just wanted to let you know that you shouldn't expect a "fix" for the balance issue in the future.

If your english is as bad as mine, sometimes you choose the wrong words to explain what you're actually mean.

I did sound slighty harsh, but yeah my english is not perfect either - I'm from Denmark.

I would'nt worry too much about the balance issue. I am sure things will sort itself out eventually.

FMScout are releasing an RTE for FM14.
SIgames/Sega are releasing an RTE on launch as well.
So if people really are that desperate, or ... , they can get one of those.

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