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Posted: Sep 05, 2013 11:48:11 AM - Report post  (1)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

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In the name of testing the Trainer crashing the game i played for 5 hours straight with the first trainer you guys release 0 crashes for 5 hours straight of game play.then i switch to your later version and the game didn't last 1 turn crashes at the end of the turn. i do own a high end rig and using 2 GTX 670 on my pc so the game it self with out trainer ( another 5 hours of game play) no crashes either. i do not know why 1 trainer will make the game crash and the other wont but something is going on there.

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Again this is an observation not a complain of any kind

Just another case of us not being able to win regardless of what we do.

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Posted: Sep 05, 2013 12:01:24 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

Great work CH, thank you again for swift and proper trainer releases.

I'm looking forward to testing the new trainer, and I am confident that we'll eventually be able to point the finger squarely at CA and not CH.

I've also been experiencing crashes, but they appear in random ways and too randomly to be solely a trainer problem. Something inside the game is broken, which we experience when we activate a feature of the trainer. Don't blame CH, blame the greedy shareholders of games companies, who release games that haven't fully cleared the testing phase.

Anyways.

Diplotatic price work around.

In order to adress the high ammounts of cash the AI demands, in return for diplomatic actions like Trade Agreements, when using the massive gold cheat of the trainer, I have found a simple work around for the issue.

When the AI asks for money, the ammount will often be as high as 90.000+. Reducing this by the normal means, while giving a cut, still leaves an immensely large ammount of cash for the AI. Here is what I've discovered.

You can still pay a smaller ammount of money to the AI (say 2.5k), by first turning the cashflow around. In effect you're demanding money instead of paying. This makes it possible for you, to set the figure much lower. When done changing the payment size, change the payment back again to offering. If the new and normal ammount of cash is good enough for the AI it will accept, even though you are not anyway near the ammount, it demanded in the first place.

I figured that the ammount needed to succeed in winning the diplomatic situation is unchanged. The AI only "sees" a bigger pot of gold, in regards to how much it will demand, as a fair deal. But the AI will still accept, what would have been a fair deal without the massive ammount of gold in your coffers.

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Posted: Sep 05, 2013 3:23:57 PM - Report post  (1)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

Ive played over 30 hours of this game with the trainer activated, with no crashes. So dont have a clue why people say theres an issue with this trainer, it works fabulously and all options work great.

so thanks "CHeathappens crew"! "caliber et al" for another excellent release

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Posted: Sep 05, 2013 3:43:39 PM - Report post  (1)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

Just because the game comes from a big name doesn't mean its not going to have problems after release.

run a disk cleanup, do a defrag, if you have it use ASC 6..

Doing such things can help avoid problems and even if it doesn't help with the game its still a good idea to do so every now n then.

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Posted: Sep 05, 2013 6:17:08 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

Works like a charm to me..
The only time I have trainers that crash my game is when I do no use them as instruted..

There are hundreds of threads on other sites talk about the game crashing, at the end of a turn being the big one it seems..
that is why there is a patch coming out tomorrow..

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Posted: Sep 05, 2013 6:23:10 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

If my .02 cents matters you guys are doing a great job on the trainers.. Thanks for all the time and effort..

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Posted: Sep 05, 2013 7:11:09 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

I deactivate everything before I "End Turn". Then re-activate them afterwards. It works for me and the game does not crash.
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Posted: Sep 05, 2013 7:18:32 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

seriously, the trainer options need to be deactivated if you don't want to run into issues at the end of turns, it's been like that since empire even. The game is a real mess and as talented as the CH guys are, Im sure there is something not gelling with the trainer when you end the turn. Keep that and mind and you should be ok.
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