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Could everybody calm their tempers plz?
 
Shotgunmaniac  posted on Jan 15, 2013 2:51:26 PM - Report post

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originally posted by dstates

i feel like the amount of pure stupidity on these boards has dropped off significantly over the years since i've been here.

comparing what the boards are like now to what they were like in 2005-2007, there is much less spamming, trolling, flaming, and rule breaking in general.

one thing that hasn't really changed is the people who fill up the trainer boards with posts like 'trainer crashes game, HELP NAO!!' without going through the trainer troubleshooting guide that will solve the problem 90% of the time, or 3 pages of members saying the exact same thing, 'GAME PATCHED PLEASE UPDATE TRAINER!!!'. And this will always be the case because most people are impatient and feel entitled to instant gratification, and most don't understand what a trainer really is/how it works.

Back in the day, the mods were putting in some work. there were several topics getting locked/deleted, tons of posts being edited/removed, and several members getting banned nearly every day.....Now i've been a mod since 2011 i'm responsible for the banning of 5 whole members, and that is including members who literally asked for their account to be deactivated...so i'd say that in the perspective of general members around here, the boards and community as a whole are much more tolerable than they were in previous years.

seriously though, we(mods) get 1 post report every 1.5 - 2 weeks on average, and for 25% of them, the post reported isn't even breaking any rules.

Yeah, I joined on the ass-end of that period and it still wasn't pretty. I think the main reason nick_bang is peeved is the negativity bias our brains tend to impose on us. There's tons of nice things being said, so the bad things being said stand out more.

Doesn't help that the latter also tends to be way more dramatic, either.

 
nick_bang  posted on Jan 15, 2013 3:31:52 PM - Report post

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Actually I dont feel Im very negatively biased:

Why would I be? And why would you think I am ?

I dont challenge the fact that lots of nice things are being said, however that is somewhat beside the point as this is not a scale upon which good and bad should be measured.

If so then obviously with the volume of traffic on the site being what it is then the neutral or good would statistically outweigh the bad.

But I feel like people are taking this as an attack which they have to defend against, which was not my intention at all.

I dont feel like im stirring up something: again why would I?

Im an successfull private contractor and have more than enough in my 11 hour workdays to challenge me.

But the fact of the matter is that I have seen quite a lot of trainers for games I still actively play being retired because of negative and unconstructive dailogue.

Or rather 2-way monologues.

Does this mean its worse now than 2005-2007... probably not. I wouldnt know as I joined after that.

Do I find it annoying ... definitely.

So with all due respect for the things put forth above:

Then I stand by what I wrote.

[Edited by nick_bang, 1/15/2013 3:33:21 PM]

 
dstates  posted on Jan 15, 2013 3:41:05 PM - Report post

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you can help your favorite titles from getting retired simply by using the report post button. if you notice a great deal of crap posts on the trainer thread and decide to send a report to the moderators, chances are we will come in and delete all the crap before before someone who matters (pwiz, cal, etc) sees it and decides to retire the title.

^the above was copied & pasted directly from an earlier topic made on this board with a similar theme to this one - Link

 
Shotgunmaniac  posted on Jan 15, 2013 3:49:57 PM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by nick_bang

Actually I dont feel Im very negatively biased:

Why would I be? And why would you think I am ?

I dont challenge the fact that lots of nice things are being said, however that is somewhat beside the point as this is not a scale upon which good and bad should be measured.

If so then obviously with the volume of traffic on the site being what it is then the neutral or good would statistically outweigh the bad.

But I feel like people are taking this as an attack which they have to defend against, which was not my intention at all.

I dont feel like im stirring up something: again why would I?

Im an successfull private contractor and have more than enough in my 11 hour workdays to challenge me.

But the fact of the matter is that I have seen quite a lot of trainers for games I still actively play being retired because of negative and unconstructive dailogue.

Or rather 2-way monologues.

Does this mean its worse now than 2005-2007... probably not. I wouldnt know as I joined after that.

Do I find it annoying ... definitely.

So with all due respect for the things put forth above:

Then I stand by what I wrote.

[Edited by nick_bang, 1/15/2013 3:33:21 PM]

It's not personal, it's cognitive. Just how the mind works, is all. Good/bad obviously isn't a sliding scale, but it's all about weighting. When the good outweighs the bad, the bad is simply more prominent when you do see it - your subconscious sees to that.

And if you feel like you're stirring things up, I really don't see any of the other posters particularly stirred. Infinite_gamer might have been snarky, but definitely not upset. Maybe you're just a bit paranoid? (or literally minded)

That might explain why things seem so negative, eh?

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