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Shotgunmaniac  posted on Aug 28, 2012 5:08:17 AM - Report post

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Which, as I said above, limits the player, since he can't enjoy the other features of being online in GFWL, like talking to their friends...
Same for remain hollow -> you're taking off a part of the experience.

And it's not a matter of deciding to play online here, it's a matter of not caring about the FORCED online, and just keep playing a single player game as we prefer to play it, ignoring invading morons entirely.

How do I have to phrase this to make you get the damn point? You are not being forced online. You were not forced to buy the game, nor buy it before reading up on others' caveats about it. Learn to communicate through things that aren't GFWL.

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Wut, I never said to mention cheathappens.
Cheathappens, as the other trainer builders, are simply the guys who provide us the tools.
But WE are the ones who use those tools to customize the playing experiences to our liking, so we're the ones who should speak ON OUR BEHALF to the developers of the games.


Yes, because simply not mentioning where you got the trainer makes cheating online with it in perfectly good spirit.

You make a lot of talk about speaking for the people to the developers. You really think they appreciate people screwing over others out of petty spite?

 
kache  posted on Aug 28, 2012 5:50:38 AM - Report post

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originally posted by Shotgunmaniac

quote:
originally posted by kache

Which, as I said above, limits the player, since he can't enjoy the other features of being online in GFWL, like talking to their friends...
Same for remain hollow -> you're taking off a part of the experience.

And it's not a matter of deciding to play online here, it's a matter of not caring about the FORCED online, and just keep playing a single player game as we prefer to play it, ignoring invading morons entirely.

How do I have to phrase this to make you get the damn point? You are not being forced online. You were not forced to buy the game, nor buy it before reading up on others' caveats about it. Learn to communicate through things that aren't GFWL.

quote:
originally posted by kache

Wut, I never said to mention cheathappens.
Cheathappens, as the other trainer builders, are simply the guys who provide us the tools.
But WE are the ones who use those tools to customize the playing experiences to our liking, so we're the ones who should speak ON OUR BEHALF to the developers of the games.


Yes, because simply not mentioning where you got the trainer makes cheating online with it in perfectly good spirit.

You make a lot of talk about speaking for the people to the developers. You really think they appreciate people screwing over others out of petty spite?

Are you reading me or just answering to things you THINK i said?

As long as you have a legit copy of the game, whose key you put into the GFWL interface when you log in you have the pvp FORCED on you, and the 2 ways to avoid this both limit the enjoyment of a product you PAID for.

Spite? Wtf...
I made it perfectly clear that you simply play the SINGLEPLAYER game ignoring the fact that the pvp is forced on you. That's not your faul, that's the fault of the developers, and it's a problem THEY have to fix, not something that we have to be ashamed of.

We like to customize our single player experiences the way we like them, and, same as mods, NOBODY has any right to criticize that. The fact that the pvp is forced on us, forcing us to cheat online without a way to avoid that which doesn't limit the game capabilities is NOT OUR PROBLEM.
It's the game problem, and we HAVE to let the developers know this, as paying customers.

 
DABhand  posted on Aug 28, 2012 5:53:03 AM - Report post

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originally posted by kache

Which, as I said above, limits the player, since he can't enjoy the other features of being online in GFWL, like talking to their friends...
Same for remain hollow -> you're taking off a part of the experience.

And it's not a matter of deciding to play online here, it's a matter of not caring about the FORCED online, and just keep playing a single player game as we prefer to play it, ignoring invading morons entirely.

Don't know why you are complaining, you obviously cheat online...

Remember your Super Street Fighter IV bot you wanted CH to make for you?

Again this is simples...

CREATE AN OFFLINE PROFILE ON GFWL... YOU CANNOT THEN BE INVADED SINCE YOU ARE OFFLINE, AND PLAY IN SP MODE.

Online is NOT forced you can choose to be online or not. If you choose to go non-hollow that is YOUR choice.

Now stop complaining like a 5 year old.

 
hochmeister  posted on Aug 28, 2012 1:25:16 PM - Report post

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whats this all about? im playing my single player game if some moron invades my world im not going to turn of health cheat neither run around as a ****ing zombie neither going to force my self to play offline **** it and **** em i cheat on dark souls so what ? /deal with it
 
fatjivi  posted on Aug 28, 2012 2:30:20 PM - Report post

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^^^well thats not fair
i think trainer should be used responsibly
i for one disable health and stamina cheat whenever someone invades and do the same when i invade someone
that way i can use trainer for single play and have a fair pvp at the same time
 
DABhand  posted on Aug 28, 2012 2:37:13 PM - Report post

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whats this all about? im playing my single player game if some moron invades my world im not going to turn of health cheat neither run around as a ****ing zombie neither going to force my self to play offline **** it and **** em i cheat on dark souls so what ? /deal with it

Thats why we can't have nice things with people like you playing MP stuff, you can't do well so you cheat at it... good luck in life.

 
Shotgunmaniac  posted on Aug 28, 2012 3:10:58 PM - Report post

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Are you reading me or just answering to things you THINK i said?

As long as you have a legit copy of the game, whose key you put into the GFWL interface when you log in you have the pvp FORCED on you, and the 2 ways to avoid this both limit the enjoyment of a product you PAID for.

Spite? Wtf...
I made it perfectly clear that you simply play the SINGLEPLAYER game ignoring the fact that the pvp is forced on you. That's not your faul, that's the fault of the developers, and it's a problem THEY have to fix, not something that we have to be ashamed of.

We like to customize our single player experiences the way we like them, and, same as mods, NOBODY has any right to criticize that. The fact that the pvp is forced on us, forcing us to cheat online without a way to avoid that which doesn't limit the game capabilities is NOT OUR PROBLEM.
It's the game problem, and we HAVE to let the developers know this, as paying customers.


And I'm still telling you PvP isn't being forced on anyone. I've made it clear that if you're going to cheat, you should have consideration for how the game works. If a developer makes a design choice, they are making a choice. People that play through the entire game cheating through a trainer are a minority. And the fact is, the game does something unique with its online component - and so apparently this idea is a non-sanctioned, illegal free thought-created one that needs fixing right away.

Create a local profile if you're going to cheat. It's not that hard. If you want to continue to take the principled consumer high ground while ignoring facts and trying to argue semantics, be my guest.

 
kache  posted on Aug 28, 2012 3:11:40 PM - Report post

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@DABhand:
It's fun: you're a cheat author, yet you speak as a cheating hater...

[Edited by kache, 8/28/2012 3:12:05 PM]

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