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I'm teaching a composition course
 
QueenNic  posted on Aug 29, 2012 2:40:36 PM - Report post

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Which could be considered a positive quality. Rather than lowering their standards for the sake of empty compliments on their work later they chose to show their actual level and face the grind until they'll earn any praise at all.

Besides, improving at writing is mostly breaking bad habits. Like always writing in first person(Every writer of teen fiction).

 
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Which could be considered a positive quality. Rather than lowering their standards for the sake of empty compliments on their work later they chose to show their actual level and face the grind until they'll earn any praise at all.

Besides, improving at writing is mostly breaking bad habits. Like always writing in first person(Every writer of teen fiction).

Subsequent to this is slowly removing the fact that the main character is a Mary Sue, which just gets downright creepy when they pop up in first person writing.

@Dhampy: I don't think it was the right approach, really. Writing papers is, by and large, mostly a game of discovering what your teacher's particulars are and working around that. By giving them that kind of assignment - especially as a first one - you essentially will be able to leverage whether or not you judge that they have indeed "improved" against them in the future. Nobody who wants their credits would risk potentially doing terrible on a first assignment and not please their new teacher.

Just my two cents, though.

 
Toastman  posted on Sep 10, 2012 2:24:16 PM - Report post

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I can just see someone writing the worst essay possible written in block print with a pencil- you didn't say anything about typing it- with random words in orders that no grammar rules comply with.

"DIS ONE TIME ME AN TYRONE WENT TO DA CHOCALET FACTRY AND DERE WAS DIS WITE GUY WIT ORANJE HAER"

And then naturally they would write something comparable to Paradise Lost in prose and composure for their final essay.

 
Latiosmaster47  posted on Sep 10, 2012 9:37:31 PM - Report post

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breaking bad

That is a great show btw.

 
Dhampy  posted on Sep 10, 2012 10:33:29 PM - Report post

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I can just see someone writing the worst essay possible written in block print with a pencil- you didn't say anything about typing it- with random words in orders that no grammar rules comply with.

"DIS ONE TIME ME AN TYRONE WENT TO DA CHOCALET FACTRY AND DERE WAS DIS WITE GUY WIT ORANJE HAER"

And then naturally they would write something comparable to Paradise Lost in prose and composure for their final essay.

Cells are bad. My uncle lives in a cell. It's ten foot by twelve and he has to read the same boring, old magazine everyday. The end.

 
Dhampy  posted on Sep 10, 2012 10:35:51 PM - Report post

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Which could be considered a positive quality. Rather than lowering their standards for the sake of empty compliments on their work later they chose to show their actual level and face the grind until they'll earn any praise at all.

Besides, improving at writing is mostly breaking bad habits. Like always writing in first person(Every writer of teen fiction).

Subsequent to this is slowly removing the fact that the main character is a Mary Sue, which just gets downright creepy when they pop up in first person writing.

@Dhampy: I don't think it was the right approach, really. Writing papers is, by and large, mostly a game of discovering what your teacher's particulars are and working around that. By giving them that kind of assignment - especially as a first one - you essentially will be able to leverage whether or not you judge that they have indeed "improved" against them in the future. Nobody who wants their credits would risk potentially doing terrible on a first assignment and not please their new teacher.

Just my two cents, though.

That is definitely not how papers work.

Your professor doesn't want you to pander to them. They want you to engage in scholarly discussion. They don't care if you agree with them, but they do expect you to be able to make a valid argument.

Don't mistake the lack of ability in the student for unreasonableness in the professor.

 
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good strategy to judge improvement, i doubt anyone would realize what you're up to though.

by the way, why does everyone love posting non-spam topics on OTD? im not gonna bother moving it though...clicking my mouse 3 times is too much work >_>

 
Toastman  posted on Sep 11, 2012 10:46:46 AM - Report post

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@Dhampy: I don't think it was the right approach, really. Writing papers is, by and large, mostly a game of discovering what your teacher's particulars are and working around that. By giving them that kind of assignment - especially as a first one - you essentially will be able to leverage whether or not you judge that they have indeed "improved" against them in the future. Nobody who wants their credits would risk potentially doing terrible on a first assignment and not please their new teacher.

Just my two cents, though.


I dunno, man. I think if I were able to figure it out before the deadline I might be willing to try for something like this. Mainly only because English is my best subject and major, so I would be fairly confident that I could pull myself out of any hole I might be digging. Heck, I drew a ninja on a giraffe on my Algebra 2 final last semester for extra credit.

Spoiler:

I got the extra credit. Passed the class because of it.

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Cells are bad. My uncle lives in a cell. It's ten foot by twelve and he has to read the same boring, old magazine everyday. The end.


I love that movie.

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