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Posted: Jun 29, 2013 7:59:03 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

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the trainer will likely work through the 1000 stupid patches this game goes through. one of the WORST developers ever..

literally they patch sometimes 3 times a day to fix their crap bugs..

at any rate, please try the trainer and MAKE SURE that an option(s) isn't working before requesting trainer updates. I've had to look at this title due to user request dozens of times only to find that the current trainer still works..

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they are just following the footsteps of the mobile phone apps development scene... release half done product and patch them on the go... gone are the days of a game released well tested inhouse.

we expect more of the same down the track: Gamers do the beta testing and they can patch patch patch!!!!

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Posted: Jun 29, 2013 10:20:37 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

 quote:
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 quote:
 originally posted by Caliber:

the trainer will likely work through the 1000 stupid patches this game goes through. one of the WORST developers ever..

literally they patch sometimes 3 times a day to fix their crap bugs..

at any rate, please try the trainer and MAKE SURE that an option(s) isn't working before requesting trainer updates. I've had to look at this title due to user request dozens of times only to find that the current trainer still works..

best,
Cal

they are just following the footsteps of the mobile phone apps development scene... release half done product and patch them on the go... gone are the days of a game released well tested inhouse.

we expect more of the same down the track: Gamers do the beta testing and they can patch patch patch!!!!

so which is it? one guy says it works, one guy says it doesn't..

see what I mean

likely the trainer still functions


I may just retire this title.. I hate wasting time over and over on it when the trainer already works when I test it.

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Please don't retire this game due to a vocal few. This trainer has always worked for me in all its iterations.

Thank you for your hard work, even when the developer gets in your way.

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 quote:
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 quote:
 originally posted by jackau:

 quote:
 originally posted by Caliber:

the trainer will likely work through the 1000 stupid patches this game goes through. one of the WORST developers ever..

literally they patch sometimes 3 times a day to fix their crap bugs..

at any rate, please try the trainer and MAKE SURE that an option(s) isn't working before requesting trainer updates. I've had to look at this title due to user request dozens of times only to find that the current trainer still works..

best,
Cal

they are just following the footsteps of the mobile phone apps development scene... release half done product and patch them on the go... gone are the days of a game released well tested inhouse.

we expect more of the same down the track: Gamers do the beta testing and they can patch patch patch!!!!

so which is it? one guy says it works, one guy says it doesn't..

see what I mean

likely the trainer still functions


I may just retire this title.. I hate wasting time over and over on it when the trainer already works when I test it.

Please do not retire this game...

it is perhaps one of the best designed 4X Game in the decade.
they got tons of patches out but they actually add real value (development) for the game unlike some other big developers.
I do not expect more new major version in a short while after this. they as looking to port the thing to other platforms.

THe current trainer works.. that's for sure, it still works in the latest 1.1.3 version that I can confirmed.. on a WIndows 8 machine.

I (and those know how to use the patch) thank you for your work on this and other titles

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"it is perhaps one of the best designed 4X Game in the decade.
they got tons of patches out but they actually add real value (development) for the game unlike some other big developers.
I do not expect more new major version in a short while after this."

Thanks jackau. We still have to add the rally point feature and some other stuff.

Next time, maybe we will make sure to have some public tools for adding Dust and unlocking the technologies. It will ease the work of Caliber.

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I dunno if you guys have noticed this, but using the unlock research tech option of the trainer seems to be unlocking the techs of the AIs as well as mine!

I could tell this was happening when I've unlocked all the techs that I wanted and started expanding outwards.

Almost every AI I've encountered had also gained the techs to colonize all the planets and had their fleet ship types at revision #4 or #5!

Obviously, this did not work well in my favor.

Now I'm starting to wonder whether or not the Add Dust option is also being enabled for the AIs.

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 quote:
 originally posted by Kresher:

I dunno if you guys have noticed this, but using the unlock research tech option of the trainer seems to be unlocking the techs of the AIs as well as mine!

I could tell this was happening when I've unlocked all the techs that I wanted and started expanding outwards.

Almost every AI I've encountered had also gained the techs to colonize all the planets and had their fleet ship types at revision #4 or #5!

Obviously, this did not work well in my favor.

Now I'm starting to wonder whether or not the Add Dust option is also being enabled for the AIs.

no it is not..

the value is written to ONE ADDRESS. if the AI shares the same tech trees as you, and you set it to 0 for time to build, then possibly they build it using the same core value of 0 as well.

if the developers allow the AI to get the same things you unlock that is on them and is the way the game is coded.

please tell the developers that you notice this.

regarding dust, there are separate addresses for both you and the AI for sure, so writing to your total doesn't write to the AI total.

if you aren't happy with the way the game functions in regards to zero time to build things then feel free to not use that option.

best,
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 quote:
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 quote:
 originally posted by Kresher:

I dunno if you guys have noticed this, but using the unlock research tech option of the trainer seems to be unlocking the techs of the AIs as well as mine!

I could tell this was happening when I've unlocked all the techs that I wanted and started expanding outwards.

Almost every AI I've encountered had also gained the techs to colonize all the planets and had their fleet ship types at revision #4 or #5!

Obviously, this did not work well in my favor.

Now I'm starting to wonder whether or not the Add Dust option is also being enabled for the AIs.

no it is not..

the value is written to ONE ADDRESS. if the AI shares the same tech trees as you, and you set it to 0 for time to build, then possibly they build it using the same core value of 0 as well.

if the developers allow the AI to get the same things you unlock that is on them and is the way the game is coded.

please tell the developers that you notice this.

regarding dust, there are separate addresses for both you and the AI for sure, so writing to your total doesn't write to the AI total.

if you aren't happy with the way the game functions in regards to zero time to build things then feel free to not use that option.

best,
Cal

Cal is correct, trainer works fine. Trainer works with 1.1.4 as of 3 of July.
the tech trees are different with each race (minor difference for some), the AI players wont get the same effect.

The new race Harmony rocks don't use the currency Dust, instead they use a scale like balance for the food and science balance.

By quickly building up the tech tree and devote resources raise industrial production would dramatically shorten time to produce warships. The start up path is slow.

It would be the hardest race to master even with aid of the research cheat. So far I get quickly beaten playing the rocks in modes above normal if wonder victory condition was switched on.

also, developer site suggest there maybe one or two minor patches that fix a bit more of stuff in non-cheating game balance and I do not expect the trainer to stop working with those patches.

[Edited by jackau, 7/2/2013 12:58:07 PM]

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