RIVAL HEART EVENTS (know how to beat them) By Sonofthereeper26 INTRODUCTION ------------ I did this FAQ mainly because I know a lot of people have trouble with heart events on the whole and thought a RIVAL heart event guide would be useful.Regarding the way the Heart Events between each girl and the respective rival (Ann-Cliff; Karen-Rick; Mary-Gray; Elli-Doctor; Popuri- Kay): None of these events can be triggered, if the heart color the girl has for Jack (character's proper name), is above the color of the heart event between the girl and the rival. That means, that you cannot trigger a green heart event (for example) between Ann and Cliff if Ann has a yellow, orange or red heart color for YOU. Or, you cannot trigger a blue heart event between a Girl and the Rival, if that girl has a green, yellow, etc., heart for YOU. This is true for ANY heart event between the girls and the rivals, and for ANY heart color event, despite all the claming that exist to date that the two things are not related. Also, the events will not trigger even if the hero marries one of the girls and the other four lose their hearts completely, IF previously their heart color for the hero were above the respective heart color for the rival. It is however possible to trigger these events if you lower the affection that the girls have for YOU. Unfortunately, you will have no indication about their heart levels, since the hearts disappear after the hero's marriage. The logic implication is that a girl will not marry a rival if she loves the hero more than she could have loved the rival at one specific point in the game time. Further, three or four different people who had problems triggering these events confirmed this information. Each time, the girl's heart color for the hero was above the color of the rival event that was not triggering. And each time, after these players lowered the hearts to the color of the required rival event, the event happened ON THE VERY NEXT OCCASION. (Note: The best way to lower a girl's heart color is during the summer at one of the beach festivals. Just fish garbage and litter. You can check the heart colors in one of the girls participating to the festival. Throwing ~ 40 pieces of garbage, the hearts go down one color. If the next days you confess the "I litter on the street", and "the town people don't like me" and the HG forgives you, you get back the villager's love, but NOT the girls' heart color.) Overall, I will try to describe each heart event, and what are the requirements for these events to trigger. In all these events I will call the Jack JACK, as I always do. GENERAL INFORMATION ------------------- Black and Blue heart events can happen at any point in the game. Most will happen during the first year, unless you are trying to avoid them on purpose. Green Heart Events will not trigger before you enter year 2 in the game. Orange heart Events will not trigger before year 4 in the game. The order these events happen, are always Black-> Blue-> Green -> Orange. You cannot trigger a Green Heart Event (for example) if you did not see both Black and Blue ones previously. Any event can happen AFTER the mentioned time (later in the game), and AFTER you marry, yourself, IF (and only IF), the requirements for each of these events are met, including the affection level the girl has for Jack. However, after you get married, the heart color of the girls for Jack disappears, so it is difficult to verify their affection level. In a few circumstances, you can see the girls' heart color even after you get married, but this is only possible (due to a glitch) for Ann and Elli Ann: you need to speak to her before 7 am in her back room at the Inn. Talk to her several times, and her heart for Jack will become visible. Elli: On Wednesdays, when she leaves the clinic to go to her grandmother's house, stop her on the road and talk to her several times. Another point to check whether a rival heart event happened, and not one of the other events the respective characters are involved in, is the fact that after each heart event, the rival will change his lines (what he says about the respective girl), when you speak to him. Also, it is important when you enter the location where the heart event happens, to be empty handed. CARRYING THE BASKET, YOUR DOG, OR ANY OTHER ITEM ABOVE YOUR HEAD, WILL STOP AN EVENT FROM TAKING PLACE 99% OF THE TIME. (This is also true for any other event in the game) --------------------------------------------------------- GENERAL STRATEGY ---------------- I would suggest, to chose the girl you want to marry, and increase her heart as much and as quickly as you can or want. If you rise her heart color to purple before the Rival Black event happens, then NONE of the Rival heart events for this girl will not happen, and she will NEVER get married with the respective rival For the others, don't rise their heart colors above the color of the next available rival heart event. Do this ONLY AFTER you managed to trigger the event. Be aware, that for all of them, the heart colors go to purple very easy in certain circumstances: -Karen: will go to purple if you buy every day stuff from the shop, even if you do not talk to her, or give her presents. -Elli: same, if you buy medicine from the Clinic, or ask the Doctor for consultations -Popuri: same if you buy chickens from the Poultry farm -Ann: same, if you buy food from the Inn -Mary: same if you go read the books from the first floor of the library. The fact is that you can find that a girl already has a purple heart for JACK, before the Black Rival heart Event happened, and therefore this event will become impossible to trigger, as well as all the following rival heart events. Unless you start spending time and energy to lower the girl heart level to black. So don't play around increasing all the girls' hearts to high levels very quickly, if you want them to have a chance to get married. After all, you yourself cannot marry more than one in the game, and there's NO DIVORCE in HM:FoMT game. Once you marry one girl, you'll be married with her forever, even if you make her hate you! Besides, if you doom all the other girls to celibate, you will miss a significant number of other events that can happen in the game only after the other girls are married to the respective rivals. Also, be aware that the level of affection a girl has for you will remain almost the same after you marry another girl, even if you cannot see her heart anymore. So the rival heart events will still not trigger, unless you lower their affection as I described previously. RIVAL HEART EVENTS ------------------ 1)CLIFF ------- Rival for Ann: a) Black Heart Event: Ann has to have a black heart for JACK (anything above black will NOT trigger the event) In the Inn - go to the second floor Spring (first year) is better, Summer - ONLY FIRST WEEK, Autumn, Winter Time: 6pm to 9 pm Cliff is upstairs, alone in his room. Ann walks in, and says she's just there to talk. She asks him the reason why he moved to the village but Cliff will refuse to talk about it.. Ann apologizes for her question., but Cliff thanks her for trying to be nice with him. b) Blue Heart Event Ann has to be at black or maximum blue heart color for JACK. The event will not trigger if Ann has a green, yellow, orange or red heart for you. Spring, or summer only. NOT in Autumn Rainy day At the Church Time: 11:00am to 4:00pm Any day except Saturday. Carter is suggesting that Cliff go out and talk to the villagers, but Cliff says it's hard to talk to new people. Ann comes in to deliver Carter his lunch from the Inn. Then Carter asks Ann if she would be nice enough to introduce Cliff to some of the other residents of Mineral Town, and. Ann gladly agrees to this. c) Green Heart Event Ann has to be at black, blue or maximum green heart color for JACK. The event will not trigger if Ann has an yellow, orange or red heart for you. Only in year 2 of the game and after Saturdays only, between 10am and 1pm Any season, and I think that weather does not matter, though I always triggered it when it was Sunny At the Inn, as you enter This event happens ONLY IF CLIFF REMAINED IN THE VILLAGE AFTER THE FIRST YESR (only if you invited him to the 1st year autumn event at the winery!) Ann, and Cliff are there as well as Doug (Ann's father). Doug will ask Cliff if he considered staying at the Inn forever, i.e. that he agree not to leave the Mineral Town, ever. Ann will support her father with this offer. Cliff will be surprised and embarrassed, but will sort of agree to stay. d) Orange Heart Event Ann has to be at black, blue, green, yellow, or maximum orange heart color for JACK. The event will not trigger if Ann has a red heart for you.You have to be in year 4 of the game or later In the cellar of the winery shop, where Cliff spends some of his time Any season, and I think that weather does not matter, though I always triggered it when it was Sunny Time: between 10am and 1pm Any day of the week, except for Saturdays. This event happens ONLY IF CLIFF REMAINED IN THE VILLAGE AFTER THE FIRST YESR (only if you invited him to the 1st year autumn event at the winery!) Ann comes to deliver Cliff's lunch. Duke walks in and makes some comments on how the two of them look well together, then ask Cliff when he's going to propose to Ann. Ann is very embarrassed and walks away. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) DOCTOR --------- Rival for Elli: a) Black Heart Event: Elli has to have a black heart for JACK (anything above black will NOT trigger the event) At the clinic Any day, except for Tuesdays and Wednesdays In the first year and after The weather is not important Time: Between 9 am and 7 pm. The Doctor and Elli talk, and Elli complains that she feels a bit tiered. The Doctor seems concerned, but more about being left without a nurse, rather than for Elli herself, and Elli becomes upset about his insensitivity. b) Blue Heart Event Elli has to be at black or maximum blue heart color for JACK. The event will not trigger if Elli has a green, yellow, orange or red heart for you. First year and after Ellen's house Weather does not seem to be important Time: Mondays only, between 9am and 7pm. Elli and the Doctor have come to see Ellen who is not feeling very well. The Doctor thinks that she just has a cold, but Ellen complains about pains in her legs, so the Doctor starts feeling guilty about not being able to help her more. c) Green Heart Event Elli has to be at black, blue or maximum green heart color for JACK. The event will not trigger if Elli has an yellow, orange or red heart for you. Only in year 2 of the game and after At the Clinic Thursday between 9am and 7pm Any season, and I think that weather does not matter, though I always triggered it when it was Sunny Elli, and The Doctor are there. He is coughing, and Elli seems quite worried about him. The Doctor says that he's fine, and that he just caught a cold. Elli asks that he doesn't overdo his work, or else she'll get mad at him, but the Doctor laughs and says that she would make a good wife someday. d) Orange Heart Event Elli has to be at black, blue, green, yellow, or maximum orange heart color for JACK. The event will not trigger if Elli has a red heart for you. You have to be in year 4 of the game or later At the beach, on a sunny day Time: Wednesdays from 7:00pm to 10:00pm, only Any season, though I never managed to trigger it in Winter Er... things become really romantic between Elli and the Doctor... --------------------------------------------------------- 3) RICK -------- Rival for Karen: a) Black Heart Event: Karen has to have a black heart for JACK (anything above black will NOT trigger the event) At the hot spring (harvest Goddess pond) In the first year and after The weather MUST be sunny Time: Wednesday to Saturday, 11:00am to 6:00pm. To trigger this event you have to enter the Hot Spring (HG pond) screen FROM THE SPRING MINE. Entering the screen from the road will not trigger this event. You have to be empty handed. Carrying the basket (or any other item) above your hand, will NOT trigger this event. Rick and Karen are talking about how close they use to be... b) Blue Heart Event Karen has to be at black or maximum blue heart color for JACK. The event will not trigger if Karen has a green, yellow, orange or red heart for you. First year and after Outside Gotz's house (in the field behind the house) Weather needs to be sunny Time: Mondays and Sundays from 11:00am to 6:00pm. The event will NOT trigger in Spring To trigger this event you need to either enter the screen from the path on the right (from the Poultry Farm, and Cow's Farm), OR to exit Gotz's House. The event will not trigger if you enter the screen from the left path (from your farm or Hot Spring Karen and Rick are talking about how they use to fight each other as children, and Rick remembers that Karen always used to beat him, as she was stronger. Karen says she really does not remember anything like this, and leaves quite upset. c) Green Heart Event Karen has to be at black, blue or maximum green heart color for JACK. The event will not trigger if Karen has an yellow, orange or red heart for you. Only in year 2 of the game and after At the hot spring (harvest Goddess pond) To trigger this event you have to enter the Hot Spring (HG pond) screen FROM THE SPRING MINE. Entering the screen from the road will not trigger this event. Sunny days only Time: Wednesdays and Fridays only from 11:00am to 6:00pm Possibly NOT in Winter Karen, and Rick are arguing about an event that just happened. Karen was attacked by an wild dog, and Rick got hurt fighting to protect her. Karen is upset that Rick took the risk, and that she is quite able to defend herself. d) Orange Heart Event Karen has to be at black, blue, green, yellow, or maximum orange heart color for JACK. The event will not trigger if Karen has a red heart for you. You have to be in year 4 of the game or later At the Poultry Farm, on a sunny day, only Popuri HAS TO BE MARRIED (either with Kai, or with you) Time: Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday from 1:00pm to 4:00pm I only managed to trigger it in Summer and Autumn, though someone said he triggered it in Spring (5th year) Again, things become really romantic between Karen and Rick... --------------------------------------------------------- 4) GRAY ------- Rival for Mary: a) Black Heart Event: Mary has to have a black heart for JACK (anything above black will NOT trigger the event) At Saibara's blacksmith shop In the first year and after The weather MUST be sunny Time: Mondays only, 10 am. to 1 pm. The season does not seem to be important Mary comes to upgrade one of her tool, but while there, Gray hurts himself and starts bleeding. Of course, Mary will take very good care of him, and offer him a bandage. b) Blue Heart Event Mary has to be at black or maximum blue heart color for JACK. The event will not trigger if Mary has a green, yellow, orange or red heart for you. First year and after At the Library Weather or season do not seem important Time: Any day except Mondays, from 1.00 pm. to 4.00 pm. Mary and Gray are talking in the library, and Mary says that not many people like to read like Gray does. Then Mary asks Gray if he would like to read the novel that she's been writing and (of course) he says he would love to. c) Green Heart Event Mary has to be at black, blue or maximum green heart color for JACK. The event will not trigger if Mary has an yellow, orange or red heart for you. Only in year 2 of the game and after At the summit of Mother's Hill Sunny days only Time: Tuesdays, Fridays, and Saturdays, only between 7am and 10am Possibly NOT in Winter Gray is telling Mary that the novel that wrote is really great. He says that she'll get better with practice, but he himself will never be able to be like her. Mary is puzzled, and Gray explains that he is trying to write too, but that he is not good at it. Mary seems vary happy and encourages him to keep trying. d) Orange Heart Event Mary has to be at black, blue, green, yellow, or maximum orange heart color for JACK. The event will not trigger if Mary has a red heart for you. You have to be in year 4 of the game or later At the Library Weather or season do not seem important Time: Fridays and Saturdays, from 1.00 pm. to 4.00 pm. Gray says that his grandfather is going to give him a test on his blacksmith skills. If he passes the test there's something he wants to ask Mary. However, he will not tell Mary what is until after he passes his test. Now, GUESS WHAT... --------------------------------------------------------- 5) KAI ------- Rival for Popuri: All Rival Heart events for Kai and Popuri happen in Summer (obviously, it's the only time that he's around) and except for the Orange Heart event, they are at the Beach THE WEATHER ALWAYS MUST BE SUNNY. But again, it very, very rarely rains in Summer, anyway. a) Black Heart Event: Popuri has to have a black heart for JACK (anything above black will NOT trigger the event) In the first year and after The weather MUST be sunny Time: Sundays only, from 1.00 pm to 4.00 pm. Popuri talks about how wonderful Kai cooking is, and asks him to cook something for Lilla, in the hope that this will help her get better. Kai happily accepts. b) Blue Heart Event Popuri has to be at black or maximum blue heart color for JACK. The event will not trigger if Popuri has a green, yellow, orange or red heart for you. First year and after Weather must be sunny Time: Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, from 9:00am to 7:00pm It's basically same as the black one, but this time Popuri thanks Kai for the delicious meal he cooked for her mom. However, the romantic meeting is interrupted by Rick, and the two guys start fighting because of Popuri. c) Green Heart Event Popuri has to be at black, blue or maximum green heart color for JACK. The event will not trigger if Popuri has an yellow, orange or red heart for you. Only in year 2 of the game and after The weather MUST be sunny Time: Sundays only, from 1.00 pm to 4.00 pm. Another romantic meeting between Popuri and Kai, but this time Popuri tells Kai that she thought about leaving Mineral Town, and making a new life in a big town, like Kai's. And Kai, what is he thinking? Well, of course he's happy, the bast... er.... d) Orange Heart Event Popuri has to be at black, blue, green, yellow, or maximum orange heart color for JACK. The event will not trigger if Popuri has a red heart for you. You have to be in year 4 of the game or later At the Poultry Farm (inside the farm The weather MUST be sunny Time: Tuesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays, from 9:00am to 7:00pm Basically, Popuri announces her family that she decided to leave Mineral Town. Rick is mad about it, but Lilla agrees, only if Kai is the one who will "take Popuri away". Which of course means...MARRIAGE! It's unclear who is mostly surprised and annoyed with this option: Rick or Kai.... Once Popuri marries Kai, SHE WILL LEAVE MINERAL TOWN WITH KAI, at the end of the Summer. She will just be around during Summers, when she comes to visit her family with her beloved husband. ----------------------------------------------------------------- After you trigger the last event (Orange heart event) for each of the Rivals, the Girl will marry him after 7 days. You will NOT be invited to the wedding, unless you are very good friend with the respective rival, so don't necessarily expect an invitation letter. However, you will still be able to attend the marriage, if you go to the Church between 9.00 am and 10.00 pm.You can speak to the people there, including the bride and the Groom. The Rival will just give you a crappy reason why he didn't invite you, but overall it's fun (including huge spelling mistakes!)Carter will even invite you to celebrate with them all night, but be aware!!!!: IF you accept at this point you will just weak up next morning at your farm, so make sure you finish all your tasks before that. However, you can decline the invitation, finish your stuff, then go back to "celebrate".... ------------------------------------------------------------------- CREDITS I would like to thank people from the HM:FOMT and HM:AWL message boards (http://www.cheathappens.com), especially HMGURL. I would also like to thank Drew and Rat (my brothers) who helped me in verifying the requirements of the Rival heart Events. I would also like to thank CHEATHAPPENS for their excellent message boards and also for giving us Brits access to them. --------------------------------------------------------------------- - CONTACT DETAILS Email me if any of these things are wrong or any I have missed out on. Sonofthereeper26@yahoo.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- - LEGAL Copy write Richard Allen 2005 This Guide is avalible only on the following sites www.cheathappens.com If you see my guide on any other site Email me at once.