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Kerrigan speculation (Spoilers alert)
 
AdmiralAckbar  posted on Aug 18, 2010 11:19:17 AM - Report post

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Ultimately somehow the Xel'Naga have to play into the next 2 games in a big way. While Blizzard has denied that the Xel'Naga are not a playable race, they have confirmed that they will play an epic role in the series. I am assuming this means them finishing their grand experiment, which is the Zerg being one half and the Protoss being the other. By uniting them they will create a 'perfect' race.

What I have no good ideas on is who the heck the "Great Hungerer" is. Apparently this fool is the ultimate joker to ruin everyones day.I hear Hungerer and I am thinking its going to try to eat everyone, or maybe suck up their energies to feed on. And maybe that is where Kerigan plays in, somehow she can stop this fool from doing what he does. Since the Zerg are psionically sensitive maybe its Kerigan that can protect them from being controlled and used by the Hybrids to take over....

Anyone have any better ideas?

Well according to Zeratul and Tassadar this Great Hungerer is actually the Overmind. The Overmind was specifically created to destroy the Protoss and it was not his choice. He has no free will and must do as the Fallen One commands.
From what I gathered from the prophecy, the Xel'Naga transcended their creation, which is to say they might have evolved into some higher life form. They created the Protoss as their legacy.
This Fallen One could have been some pariah or outcast from the Xel'Naga that ended up hating the Protoss as they were something like children to the Xel'Naga.
Of course this is all speculation on my part and all of the Xel'Naga could turn out to be some arrogant godlike creatures that like to mess with the lives of what they see as "their property".

Personally Heart of the Swarm and Legacy of the Void couldn't come soon enough. Then maybe I can finally see what's all this "Apocalypse" mumbo jumbo about.

 
bodza2006  posted on Aug 19, 2010 5:49:16 AM - Report post

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Hmmmm.... It almost sounds like you are touching on the same story line as Stargate SG1. Kind of the same thing, old race ascends... blah... blah... blah.... and their legacy try to kill each other and we humans or the Tau'ri turn out to be their favorites so naturally EVERYONE wants to kill us.... LOL I say ascended since Tasadar managed to do the same thing, so who is to say that the Xel'Naga did not do the same thing. I can see the pariah dude being angry about being left behind or something.

Certainly worth considering. But once again whats the deal with the humans, at this rate they are just the middle man stuck in a war between two very old and engineered races. Anyone else suspect a deeper secrect here?

[Edited by bodza2006, 8/19/2010 5:50:31 AM]

 
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originally posted by AdmiralAckbar

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originally posted by bodza2006

Ultimately somehow the Xel'Naga have to play into the next 2 games in a big way. While Blizzard has denied that the Xel'Naga are not a playable race, they have confirmed that they will play an epic role in the series. I am assuming this means them finishing their grand experiment, which is the Zerg being one half and the Protoss being the other. By uniting them they will create a 'perfect' race.

What I have no good ideas on is who the heck the "Great Hungerer" is. Apparently this fool is the ultimate joker to ruin everyones day.I hear Hungerer and I am thinking its going to try to eat everyone, or maybe suck up their energies to feed on. And maybe that is where Kerigan plays in, somehow she can stop this fool from doing what he does. Since the Zerg are psionically sensitive maybe its Kerigan that can protect them from being controlled and used by the Hybrids to take over....

Anyone have any better ideas?

Well according to Zeratul and Tassadar this Great Hungerer is actually the Overmind. The Overmind was specifically created to destroy the Protoss and it was not his choice. He has no free will and must do as the Fallen One commands.
From what I gathered from the prophecy, the Xel'Naga transcended their creation, which is to say they might have evolved into some higher life form. They created the Protoss as their legacy.
This Fallen One could have been some pariah or outcast from the Xel'Naga that ended up hating the Protoss as they were something like children to the Xel'Naga.
Of course this is all speculation on my part and all of the Xel'Naga could turn out to be some arrogant godlike creatures that like to mess with the lives of what they see as "their property".

Personally Heart of the Swarm and Legacy of the Void couldn't come soon enough. Then maybe I can finally see what's all this "Apocalypse" mumbo jumbo about.

Actually, the Xel'Naga "uplifted" the Zerg for "Purity of Form" and the Protoss for their "Purity of Essence." The two species were intended to merge, and the resulting hybrids would be the form the dying Xel'Naga would take on. The Dark Voice/Fallen One (presumably a Xel'Naga, given that he's a hybrid in the game) forced the Zerg to fight the Protoss in hopes of speeding this process, and since the Zerg all but wiped out the Xel'Naga as well, I assume the Dark Voice was a malevolent Xel'Naga rebel who intended to rule as their supreme being, and reshape all life in his own (new?) image.

 
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OK, so per your comments I replayed the prophecy missions and a lot of what you say made sense. Although I am not sure I agree with the Fallen One being a hybrid. He did not look like any of the other hybrids in the game. And I am certain he is operating (leading the whole mess) alone for his own neferious purposes.

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Now then during the campaign he does talk about how there could have been one person to stop him. This of course we know is during the Overminds vision campaign and its Kerigan. But it seems the humans bust a cap in her and well there goes the universe down the drain. Also at the end of the campaign it looks like all of the Zerg are wiped out as well, the hybrids start sucking the life out of them. So the fallen one is definitely someone closely related to the Xel'Naga or is one. Based on this vision and since no one talks about HOW Kerigan dies who is to say that the future the overmind sees is still not in motion. Kerrigan becomes "human" at the end of the game, so in my opinion that makes her even more vulnerable to anyone popping a cap in her and ending her life. And let us not forget our old boy Mengsk wanting her dead with a burning desire, so we know he will be out and about hunting for her. Much remains to be seen in what happens in the next campaign from the Zerg perspective.
 
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Maybe Blizzard said you evolving Kerrigan and stuff so they wont Spoil WoL just maybe i mean if they told us it would of just been a big spoiler so just maybe Oh i hope that in heart of the swarm you will be able to use the Lethivian creature thing that would be AWESOME!

[Edited by serban4, 8/26/2010 9:27:19 PM]
on a random Note www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AC_Xixry2Q

[Edited by serban4, 8/27/2010 4:18:01 PM]

 
AdmiralAckbar  posted on Aug 27, 2010 2:15:32 AM - Report post

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Maybe Blizzard said you evolving Kerrigan and stuff so they wont Spoil WoL just maybe i mean if they told us it would of just been a big spoiler so just maybe Oh i hope that in heart of the swarm you will be able to use the Lethivian creature thing that would be AWESOME!

[Edited by serban4, 8/26/2010 9:27:19 PM]

Yeah, Blizzard kinda threw a rather confusing curve ball at us with that. I mean here we have in WoL Kerrigan getting cured from the Zerg infestation and in Heart of the Swarm we learn it'll all be about the Queen of Blades. Maybe this Heart of the Swarm will be during the 4 years absence of the Zerg swarm, about how Kerrigan got her awesome yet deviously evil powers.

As for the Leviathan I'm thinking maybe, but then again maybe not. The Leviathan maybe a special campaign unit possible only in WoL, though as Blizzard has stated they will add new units to the games as the expansions add up. So it's anyone's guess.

 
bodza2006  posted on Aug 30, 2010 6:00:18 AM - Report post

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Ok so let me ask this, how come each of the other races gets a super flying unit (Leviathan and Protoss Mothership) but the humans get nothing? I know you can argue that the Humans get the Thor but its not the same. I wonder if they will fix this in the other games? Or maybe the Loki you destroy in one of the missions or whatever its called comes back in the other games and is used by the Terrans to wreck havok (i.e. you did find it on the Thor prototype planet so who knows if there arent any more out there).
 
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Well i do agree with all that was posted, but i think that, based on the chronology and the possible separation from the swarm (since Kerrigan is not the Queen of Blades, via artifact use), and i do believe by the comments of Zeratul once he knows who could save them "If only we had known.".

I speculate that Kerrigan after the re-encounter with the Zerg biology (as hinted by the evolution system described on HotS) she might not have enough psi performance, lets put it like that, to unite under her such large amounts of consciences (a medium zerg army she might be able, lets face it she is powerful) but the full girth of the zerg (dozens of conquered/infested planets, billions of larvae) its a lot of voices, so i guess she will have to be though/trained/enhanced by the Protoss Preservers on how to interact/control/unite all those voices into her and how to resist/counter the hybrid/Dark Voice influence over the broods.

TLR -> WoL: Saved from psychotic fixation on destroying everything. HotS: Reunion with the full zerg biology, doors opened to full control of the Swarm. LotV: Training and ascension of her Psy capacities in order to lead the full zerg onslaught against the Hybrids and their masters.

Also the standard battlecruisers with all the abilities in the campaign are so powerful that i guess they count as a ultimate unit.

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