Am I gonna get banned for using trainer? on Feedback, Complaints or Problems Message Board - Page 7

mell · 7/28/2010

Regarding Blizzard's new Battle.Net systems and achievements. If I used trainer in campaign, am I go

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kenny3000 posted on Jul 28, 2010 10:37:54 PM - Report post

OK guys, one of my friends just tried the trainer for MP, for those of you hoping Blizz wouldn't care, it seems in SP they know about it and don't care, but when he tried MP (all 6 matches) with in the first few minutes of the game it dropped him as a player and everyone on his team. now it does not seem that any disciplinary action was taken against his account, (ill ask him tomorrow and post again) it just kicked him from the match. again this is perfect! the trainer works for single player (what its meant for) and if you forget to turn it off and join MP (or you are a **** that wants to make other players lives a living hell), Blizz will politely remind you with a boot from the match.

Remember that guy who gave up?... Neither does anyone else.

CHEATMASTER

mell posted on Jul 28, 2010 11:39:41 PM - Report post

WTB Few daring souls to use trainers, get achievements (specifically the ones which needs you to clear campaign on brutal which unlock Kerrigan portrait for use) and hopefully get a clear statement on this.

P.S. On the side note, I'm a multiplayer-player also. The reason why I ask about this in the first place because I wanna unlock that Kerrigan portrait, but's there no way I can beat the last mission on brutal.

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Ashar posted on Jul 29, 2010 1:42:49 AM - Report post

considering all the achievements unlock is portraits and other non advantageous stuff, it still wont matter. The game battleforge has many trainers for it that ive used, they help get you currency and points much faster than you could ever normally get, and you can spend on stuff to give you massive advantage in both single and multiplayer, yet noone has been banned from that. It seems to be the case in all games. You cant use the trainer whilst your actually playing online so it cant be detected. Theres no way for the game to tell whether you got them legit or not during single player either so it doesnt matter.

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Cobb posted on Jul 29, 2010 2:00:14 AM - Report post

quote:

originally posted by kenny3000

OK guys, one of my friends just tried the trainer for MP, for those of you hoping Blizz wouldn't care, it seems in SP they know about it and don't care, but when he tried MP (all 6 matches) with in the first few minutes of the game it dropped him as a player and everyone on his team. now it does not seem that any disciplinary action was taken against his account, (ill ask him tomorrow and post again) it just kicked him from the match. again this is perfect! the trainer works for single player (what its meant for) and if you forget to turn it off and join MP (or you are a **** that wants to make other players lives a living hell), Blizz will politely remind you with a boot from the match.

That's not evidence, Blizzard would not have implemented coding for CH's specific trainer to "politely kick" a user from a MP game. There could be multiple reasons as to why he was kicked from the game, but most likely his edited game did not match up with the other players in the server therefore the users were disconnected from the server.

it seems in SP they know about it and don't care
Care to elaborate by providing an official blue statement by Blizzard on this assertion? If not, stop spouting lies and getting new users potentially banned.

Blizzard will definitely ban your friend for being stupid and using it in mp in the first ban wave, you can count on that. Their EULA mentions nothing of a "warning" for use of 3rd party cheats but a swift ban on that users account.

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neurocryptal posted on Jul 29, 2010 2:34:13 AM - Report post

Hi all,
I have searched throught the BattleNet's assistance site and find the "common language" and not the juridic about banning policies for 3rd programs uses.

The ONLY ONE case they will ban without any warning for a 3rd party program use is when this program is aimed to collect sensitive data about accounts, passwords etc.

For 3rd party programs wich give in-game advantages will be subject to a slap in the head as a first notice and maybe a temporary ban for a few hours.

Then if that happens don't be idiot and stop use the trainer forever.

Anyway, in order to be absolutely sure, I have contacted Blizzard via mail and asked them about their policies in solo-player trainers use.
I will let you know as soon as I have been answered

INACTIVE

Scott3vil posted on Jul 29, 2010 3:05:12 AM - Report post

quote:

originally posted by neurocryptal

Hi all,
I have searched throught the BattleNet's assistance site and find the "common language" and not the juridic about banning policies for 3rd programs uses.

The ONLY ONE case they will ban without any warning for a 3rd party program use is when this program is aimed to collect sensitive data about accounts, passwords etc.

For 3rd party programs wich give in-game advantages will be subject to a slap in the head as a first notice and maybe a temporary ban for a few hours.

Then if that happens don't be idiot and stop use the trainer forever.

Anyway, in order to be absolutely sure, I have contacted Blizzard via mail and asked them about their policies in solo-player trainers use.
I will let you know as soon as I have been answered

Best post in this whole topic.
Thanks for thinking with your head and doing something proactive

Look forward to your response from Blizzard

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Cobb posted on Jul 29, 2010 4:23:35 AM - Report post

us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/termsofuse.html

1. Grant of a Limited License to Use the Service.
Subject to your agreement to and continuing compliance with the Terms of Use agreement, you may use the Service solely for your own non-commercial entertainment purposes by accessing it with a web browser or an authorized, unmodified Game client. You may not use the Service for any other purpose, or using any other method.

2. Additional License Limitations.
The license granted to you in Section 1 is subject to the limitations set forth in Sections 1 and 2 (collectively, the "License Limitations". Any use of the Service or any Game in violation of the License Limitations will be regarded as an infringement of Blizzard's copyrights in and to the Service and/or Game. You agree that you will not, under any circumstances:

A. use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Service, any Game or any Game experience;

- Note, a trainer is an unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the game. Also note, ANY GAME EXPERIENCE, this means singleplayer or multiplayer.

What you are referring to neurocryptal is under 2D which does not exclude 2A but both are under Section 2 of Bnet's Terms of Agreement.

D. use any unauthorized third-party software that intercepts, "mines", or otherwise collects information from or through any Game or the Service, including without limitation any software that reads areas of RAM used by any Game or the Service to store information about a character or a Game environment; provided, however, that Blizzard may, at its sole and absolute discretion, allow the use of certain third party user interfaces;

Hope this clears this up completely, a trainer is a third-party software that modifies your client which is not allowed under Section 2, singleplayer or otherwise.

[Edited by yoops, 7/29/2010 4:33:06 AM]

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SIL3NT-DE4TH posted on Jul 29, 2010 5:47:25 AM - Report post

quote:

originally posted by neurocryptal

Hi all,
I have searched throught the BattleNet's assistance site and find the "common language" and not the juridic about banning policies for 3rd programs uses.

The ONLY ONE case they will ban without any warning for a 3rd party program use is when this program is aimed to collect sensitive data about accounts, passwords etc.

For 3rd party programs wich give in-game advantages will be subject to a slap in the head as a first notice and maybe a temporary ban for a few hours.

Then if that happens don't be idiot and stop use the trainer forever.

Anyway, in order to be absolutely sure, I have contacted Blizzard via mail and asked them about their policies in solo-player trainers use.
I will let you know as soon as I have been answered

Please do.

There are also several post asking them on the fourms.

Caliber or pwizard said that they was already 5k downloads on the first version of the trainer. Blizzards going to have to ban Almost the same amount of people invited in the first wave of the beta.

[Edited by SIL3NT-DE4TH, 7/29/2010 5:53:22 AM]