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FYI Regarding Retired Games/Trainers
Asylum7950  posted on Jul 28, 2014 10:41:52 PM - Report post

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7 Days to Die is always online and VAC enabled now. You can't use a trainer, even in SP, or it could ban you from Steam. Since they don't condone cheating in an online environment a trainer for this game is against the core values of the site. That's why it was retired, if I understand the post correctly.

[Edited by Asylum7950, 7/28/2014 10:43:36 PM]

Jaks  posted on Jul 29, 2014 12:12:56 AM - Report post

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Hmm, I don't see VAC Enabled listed on this one. Not where you usually see it, anyway. This is all that's listed:

Cross-Platform Multiplayer
Includes level editor

Don't they at least have to tell us if the game is VAC Enabled? Is this one of those games that combines SP and MultiPlayer modes?

Asylum7950  posted on Jul 29, 2014 1:06:31 AM - Report post

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It's in the notes for Alpha 8.7
B4Marc  posted on Jul 29, 2014 3:37:51 AM - Report post

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originally posted by PWizard

What people fail to realize is that everyday, in addition to the hundreds of complaints, I also get several false notifications of game updates which supposedly "break" the current trainer. A Steam client update, a game loader update, an antivirus update occurs but doesn't actually change the game or affect the trainer in any way. Some people don't even bother TESTING the trainer to see if it still works, they just instantly cry wolf. So we have to delete a current game to make room for this so-called updated game. Re-download the game, re-test the trainer, etc, all just to find out that the game hasn't updated at all. We just wasted about 5 hours when we don't have 5 minutes to spare in the day. Same thing goes for false patches. People send us the wrong files or non-updated files (like the case of BC2) and yet again we waste time searching out changes that do not exist when we could be working on games that HAVE actually patched or changed. On top of all this I get nice sarcastic comments from people and at the end of the day it's just not worth it.

I concur, and apologize if I ever sinned

I'll make a point to verify (usually I do) before posting

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Jaks  posted on Jul 29, 2014 9:21:59 AM - Report post

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@B4Marc Hell yeah and Amen to that, bro.

@Asylum7950 I see what you mean. I dunno what the answer is for sure. We've all played plenty of games with trainers that have an online component, SP mode and are VAC Enabled with no problems. I have, anyway, games like Resident Evil Revelations and RE6, Killing Floor, Left For Dead 2, Inversion, Red Faction Arma, Awesomenauts, Dead Island Riptide , etc. that have VAC and a trainer for SP.

Just have to really stay away from the online component or, as you said, you can face a ban for sure. I haven't played this one yet, is there no way to avoid online while in single player?

DABhand  posted on Jul 29, 2014 11:52:39 AM - Report post

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originally posted by Asylum7950

It's in the notes for Alpha 8.7

To be fair doesn't say if VAC is covering SP or not.

Still I wouldn't use a trainer just in case.

[Edited by DABhand, 7/29/2014 11:53:10 AM]

ServiusTheBear  posted on Jul 29, 2014 12:32:48 PM - Report post

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VAC does not cover SP at all unless it is one of the new styles of SP Online all the time allowing for drop in and out MP/co op. Thats what I decifer from it.
mushtygeezer  posted on Aug 19, 2014 5:50:09 PM - Report post

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I think people just plain don't get the fact that we are not "customers", we are MEMBERS!!!
I can hardly believe that some people believe they paid the membership price for a particular game!?
we all paid for membership of cheat happens, that this then enabled us to access the trainer for a game we had in mind is irrelevant, this actually means that we have access to ALL the trainers hosted on this site, not just that particular one!
PWiz and all the other authors do not owe us anything, they have granted us the courtesy of membership to be able to use the software they have written. As far as I can remember, there were no promises of having software written specifically for me just because I decided to join the club they run when I read the TOS and applied to join!
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