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    DABhand posted on Feb 10, 2010 2:51:09 PM - Report post
     
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    Ok well I guess I shouldn't have made this topic. You all see that PC games are crappy ports of console games yet you still put it on a pedestal. Resident Evil 5, GTA 4, Street Fighter 4 and the list continues of games on the PC that are deprived of any new content for the PC and are left out to die. I gladly agree that steam makes a good effort to make the PC gaming survive but till when? I look at a computer now like an MMO platform.

    You guys can keep bashing at this topic all you want, but you should see that I am not complaining about computer gaming being dead. I am simply sad that I am loosing the gaming experience that I once had in front of my PC.

    You are complaining that crappy console games are also crappy on PC.

    And you're ignoring the ****tons of PC-only games which, by and large, are far superior to anything consoles will ever get. The Total War games, Warhammer games, essentially every good RPG...the upcoming Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3...

    You're also creating a strawman of "ported games". You're essentially claiming that every game which is on PC and consoles is ported, and therefore crappy. Ummmmmm...Half Life 2? Left 4 Dead? Bioshock? Mass Effect?

    The concept of a "port" is really quite antiquated.

    I would like to say Dhampy, SC2 and D3 are not only PC titles.

    Macs are PCs, dude. Always have been.

    [Edited by Dhampy, 2/10/2010 2:49:08 PM]

    Wrong.

    When it comes to the software market.

    MAC's are MAC's and PC's are PC's.

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    Paradox posted on Feb 10, 2010 2:56:48 PM - Report post
     
    Actually, that's incorrect. When it comes to the software market, games are either made for Windows or Mac OS X. It's why most games are labeled "Games for Windows" and not "Games for PC".

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    Dhampy posted on Feb 10, 2010 2:59:12 PM - Report post
     
    In this context, the context of competition for the games market, it's PERSONAL COMPUTERS vs consoles.

    Macs and PC's both run Intel chips and new Macs in stores are pre-installed with Windows.

    So, in this context, Macs are PCs.

    You can quibble about that all you want, but your arguments are outdated.
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    Dhampy posted on Feb 10, 2010 3:00:14 PM - Report post
     
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    Actually, that's incorrect. When it comes to the software market, games are either made for Windows or Mac OS X. It's why most games are labeled "Games for Windows" and not "Games for PC".

    [Edited by Paradox, 2/10/2010 2:59:04 PM]

    That's an operating system, not a Mac/PC distinction.

    Unless somehow "Games for Linux" would somehow not be "PC".

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    Dhampy posted on Feb 10, 2010 3:06:05 PM - Report post
     
    The distinction that has been drawn upon throughout the entire thread thus far is "computers" vs "consoles". Not "Windows" vs "MacOS" vs "PS3" vs "Xbox 360" vs "Wii".

    It is dishonest to change that halfway through a discussion.

    Like you're arguing about "cows" vs "pigs" and then suddenly you start arguing "only holstein cows".
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    Toastman posted on Feb 10, 2010 3:07:53 PM - Report post
     
    I'm definitely going with Dhampy on this one. In this context, we are talking about personal home computers versus console gaming. Calling a Mac its own system is like splitting hairs.

    Let's get back to the actual argument at hand.
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    DABhand posted on Feb 10, 2010 3:31:03 PM - Report post
     
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    I'm definitely going with Dhampy on this one. In this context, we are talking about personal home computers versus console gaming. Calling a Mac its own system is like splitting hairs.

    Let's get back to the actual argument at hand.

    IN THE SOFTWARE MARKET ITS MACS AND PCS.

    Its a simple rule to remember.

    In hardware its both PC's.

    MAC's have a different kernel as Windows PC's. As does Linux PC's.

    Its only Blizzard who really publishes both PC and MAC binaries on one media. Other Developers release on seperate media. With MAC and Windows/PC on the front and/or requirements on the back.

    If you dont understand that then I would stop right there in thinking you know things on the computer side of things. Again a MAC is never the same as PC in the software market, never has and never will.

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    DABhand posted on Feb 10, 2010 3:36:28 PM - Report post
     
    Infact ill make it easier for you.

    If MAC's in the software market is PC's as Dhampy and others think.

    How would a MAC owner know what to buy when everything is PC CD-ROM/DVD-ROM. Exactly.
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