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    Petray posted on Oct 28, 2009 5:17:30 PM - Report post
     
    I'm assuming catholic schools in America are far too politically correct nowadays to even give a stern brain beating.

    Doesn't really matter what's wrong with you. If you haven't done all you're supposed to, that's you rejecting God, by rejecting God, you don't get in to Heaven.

    Also, stress and anguish are a persons own personal problems, not a mental illness.
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    Dhampy posted on Oct 28, 2009 5:18:18 PM - Report post
     
    Sure, if you're insane or if you're not Catholic then you can't be aware of it being a sin. For instance, a dishonored medieval Samurai who chooses to kill himself isn't committing a mortal sin since he is unaware of what Catholics think are sins.

    But that is a value judgment, since there is no definition for insanity and one literally cannot know if said "mentally ill" suicidal person was capable of reason since that can only be established if the person is alive to be analyzed.
    In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us, 'Make us your slaves, but feed us.'

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    Latiosmaster47 posted on Oct 28, 2009 5:30:55 PM - Report post
     
    quote:
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    one literally cannot know if said "mentally ill" suicidal person was capable of reason since that can only be established if the person is alive to be analyzed.

    There are really few cases when we actually know someone gets into heaven or not anyway. (sainthood)

    @ Petray- They hit us with three foot long metal rulers when we were smartasses. And I didn't intend on getting into a huge argument on the matter back when I made the post you were talking about. (about the mental stuff)

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    Neo7 posted on Oct 28, 2009 5:34:23 PM - Report post
     
    The only way to find out what happens after death is to die so not like any of your points really matter at all.
    Your bitterness, I will dispel
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    Dhampy posted on Oct 28, 2009 5:38:23 PM - Report post
     
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    The only way to find out what happens after death is to die so not like any of your points really matter at all.

    If everyone had that attitude, we'd still be hunter-gatherers.

    Only after intellectual development came societal, technological and practical development.

    In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us, 'Make us your slaves, but feed us.'

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    Latiosmaster47 posted on Oct 28, 2009 5:41:29 PM - Report post
     
    I love how this is an OTD topic titled "hey" and we're having a philosophical discussion on theology.
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    Dancer posted on Oct 28, 2009 6:43:30 PM - Report post
     
    Religion blah blah blah.

    To be honest, It is fairly expected to feel down about having two of your friends commit suicide. If he didn't feel sad about it, something would be wrong. Mourning and woe are natural methods of which help you to grieve and thus, move on.

    Don't try and rush him or give him "advice". It would the equivalent of smashing open a chrysalis. Time is the greatest therapist of all.
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    zorrodude posted on Oct 28, 2009 7:44:28 PM - Report post
     
    This is why I choose to be Agnostic.
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