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I just LOVE pirates NOT!
 
Paradox  posted on Sep 07, 2009 5:22:22 PM - Report post

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It really, really isn't the same thing. Downloaded games don't take up any space. Say you steal someone's shirt right off their back. You've actually taken something away from them. However, you can download a file as many times as you want, it costs nothing to do so and doesn't take up any real space.

Piracy is like choosing to not put a bird back in its nest. You don't have an effect on anything, and you could've done the better thing. Piracy is wrong because you could be doing the right thing, but choose not to.

 
SuperSkyline89  posted on Sep 07, 2009 5:39:03 PM - Report post

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The difference I see is that if you steal someones car that person can never use that car again, you aren't stealing a copy. Piracy is like duplicating a car and taking the duplicate, the person still has their car. I'm not denying that piracy doesn't cost companies tons of money, or even saying it's right for that matter, but it's not really the same as stealing someones physical property.
 
Boogieman184  posted on Sep 07, 2009 5:49:46 PM - Report post

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Yeah, well, usually when I pay for a game, and I do usually pay for games, I expect that particular copy of the game for which I payed to be MINE not the developers. Take for example EA Games's: Mass Effect. I bought it, got three instals and then EA very politely told me either to buy the game again or go fu*k myself. I somehow understand the need for various anti-hack programs but there are other solutions that then these retarded programs. When I see something like this happening I can more than agree with pirates. When I pay $60 for a f'n video game and can't even instal it more than three times then pirate bay it is! I don't even see what the purpose of securom is anymore, the pirates hacked that sistem quite a while back and I really find it hard to believe that there is even one more game out there that hasn't been hacked yet. Ok, so put up some defence against hacking, but don't actually take away the games from the buyers just so the game doesn't get hacked. I guess that what I'm trying to say here is that hacking is bad because it takes away the credit that the developers deserve but anti-hacking taken too far is equally as bad, so when a game starts acting up because of the sh*tty anti-hacking program, don't go blaming the people that download it for free just so they don't have to pay for a faulty game, blame the idiots that made the game faulty.
 
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The difference I see is that if you steal someones car that person can never use that car again, you aren't stealing a copy. Piracy is like duplicating a car and taking the duplicate, the person still has their car. I'm not denying that piracy doesn't cost companies tons of money, or even saying it's right for that matter, but it's not really the same as stealing someones physical property.

Because piracy is not stealing software at all. It is the unauthorized use of software without a license. You can go out and drive a car regardless of whether you're licensed to or not, but if you are not holding a valid license, you get into trouble for operating a vehicle without one. If you manage to get away driving without a license, no one is going to care in the slightest as what's done is done and nobody got legal spots on their records.

[Edited by L, 9/7/2009 6:08:59 PM]

 
SuperSaiyan4  posted on Sep 07, 2009 6:27:39 PM - Report post

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We could get into how some people consider pirating music to be "okay" while games are a no-no for them. You're still pirating.
 
aramus555  posted on Sep 07, 2009 6:31:35 PM - Report post

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ppl need to stop slagging the pirates off... its the same thing that happened to films and music no matter how much u say there will always be ppl who will do it which will eventually drop the industry down. Yes it does screw the small time developers off but lets not forget that the big players dont rely on it 100% there are other ways for them to make money and most of the players actually purchase games because they r not lazy enough to walk to the store and buy em.

This will ofcaurse force developers to create new security measures until they will be up in our asses scanning every single non trusted data that we comprehended with the games which will eventually force the pirates to counter those system and the cycle continues... do i need to say more?
 
Lithric  posted on Sep 07, 2009 6:32:28 PM - Report post

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There is no excuse for being a pirate. Whether you don't have enough money or just don't care, you are still resorting to stealing, which simply cannot be justified. People pay for games because they want to support the developer. If you support the developer, they will continue to make games you like.

Simply put, just don't pirate things. Research the game, ask people about it, and then make your purchase. Support the developer so that next year, you'll have something else to play.

Actually, the argument of theft is incorrect.
Theft is essentially defined as depriving someone of the use or benefit of their property.
Downloading of software does not deprive the developer, publisher, or any of the related people of their property - they still have the gold masters with which they made the media in the first place.
You could argue vandalism - the willful and intentional destruction of value of someones property, but at the end of the day its still ludicrous to argue *anything* like a 1:1 ratio of downloads to lost sales. If you believe that, go attend a 011 level Probability and Statistics class.

As I said, I have no particular love for pirates, but I have even less interest in distorting the law to favor lobby interests and create an entirely new form of crime for what is fundamentally a civil matter.
End, period, freakin' Dot.

 
Punisher0836  posted on Sep 07, 2009 6:41:14 PM - Report post

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Everyone tends to forget that piracy been around longer than most of us, no matter how many time you stop one person or a whole group of pirates. 3 more come out and so on. Piracy has been around longer than any of us and will continue to do so no matter what; it’s a losing battle no matter way u look at it. Piracy is here to stay and will continue to thrive with us or without us.

[Edited by Punisher0836, 9/7/2009 6:41:51 PM]

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