Grand Theft Auto 4 (GTA 4) Message Board  

Or i like to add some will PM you wanting you to send them your trainers to them, It's like hit the Ban or block person from sending you any more PM's, but that is annoying as well....

I don't think it's really necessary to be so negative about us free members like that. I have never begged someone for an unlimited trainer. I have never complained about this site. That said, this is not a complaint, this is my perspective. If you disagree with it, that's fine because nobody can really be right or wrong about this. It's just strictly based on point-of-view. Being the poor person that I am, my perspective is going to be radically different compared to someone who can just up and buy a lifetime membership to something like it's just spending pocket change.

I understand that running a good site isn't cheap--trust me. I feel like most of the time, as a free member, I'm being teased and pushed around by the site. The solution is simple, the site says, just throw money at the problem and it'll go away for a month. I just can't do that, so I'm stuck. It used to be that trainers wouldn't be released until two weeks after the game was released. That was great and I understood why, so I never said anything about it. But then...it got kicked up to a month. Again, I understood why and kept to myself. Finally, they kicked it up to two months... Which, in my opinion, was already pushing it beyond tolerable. Now, there's trainers that will never be released for free. You really can't push it farther than that; aside from making all of the trainers CheatHappens.com ever made unlimited-only, which I can see happening now. It's a familiar model to almost every free site that I've been to that slowly transitioned into a pay site. If CheatHappens.com becomes a pay site, there's nothing I can do about it. I'm not going to complain about it. I'm not going to throw a fit. I'll simply say, "That's a shame. Guess I can't go there anymore." And that'll be it.

CheatHappens.com makes wonderful trainers and are quick to update them when there's a problem with them... Which makes it unfortunate for the free members like me who just don't have money to burn. Trainers are becoming more difficult to find these days. I'm not entirely sure why, but I don't know how to make them myself. That's why I loved this site so much. Maybe. MAYBE when I come into some nice money someday, I'll be able to pay for an unlimited account and everything will be fine. I hope I can someday because I really like this site.

Yournobody, the reason why this thread was created was because of the vast majority of free members that aren't as articulate as you are in voicing opinions, and/or don't read the red "sticky" topics explaining that the trainer isn't free. This thread isn't a particular attack on anyone, least of all specifically you, but is meant to be a general reminder. There are a lot of younger members (13-14 years old) that join and start seemingly pointless topics saying "omg y u do taht make it free!!!".

Nobody has anything against free members, it's just that there's just been an increasingly frustrating amount of UNLs being haggled/harassed for the UNL-only GTA IV trainer, and the pointless topics. This is just a reminder for all the frees out there.

Agreed yournobody expresses their opinion well. But again I look at it this way, I didn't pay to become a UNL member. I contributed to the site. So they leave that option out there.

Indeed, that is an option that I didn't know about. I'm sorry, I'm usually not very active on the boards and such, so I don't know much about that stuff. I also don't think I'd have anything to contribute because I'm not that good at video games, so I don't think I could write guides or anything like that. ^^;;

As Resolution said, this was not meant to attack any free member. The only reason why PWiz hasn't released this trainer to public is because they worked really hard to make this. LIVE is very complicated yet Cal successfully created a working trainer WITHOUT modifying xlive, unlike the rest of the groups.

PWiz said over a million times that he won't release it yet members kept posting threads and posts telling him to release it so I made this thread. It was becoming really annoying, someone had to do something about it. Believe me, my intentions were not to attack anyone. Just to remind them what PWizard has been saying all along.

heh i would buy it but im 15 and i can't buy anything because my mom n dad bit fussy at buying stuff online but i might get it soon hopefully.

@yournobody:

I appreciate your honest opinion. Just let me say that we have no intentions of turning CH into an all pay site. 99% of the content on our website is still free or will become free after the waiting period is over. It is true that some trainers, like this one, will remain as UNL ONLY but that's simply because we have people like Kelsat that rip our trainers and/or other people that try and crack them and spread them. This causes us to lose the necessary money it takes to have our programmers code 40-50 trainers and updates every month. We have to make up those losses somehow or simply stop making trainers. I don't think that people realize it costs us approximately $500 in programming fees to complete EACH trainer. I think that the $24.95 per YEAR fee that we ask is very fair, considering that we put out about 500 trainers each year. We try our very best to leverage our free and UNL content as best we can and we certainly try to make things available to free members whenever possible.

As someone else stated, we offer a FREE LIFETIME membership to people that simply contribute to the site in the way of a FAQ or guide. Does IGN or other such sites offer such a thing? Again, that's us trying to look out for those people that simply can't afford or have no means to pay for a membership.