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Caliber and PWizard you are doing a great job creating a trainers for the games, so we can have fun in the games. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
But in our world some people do not respect other people work. I have payed for unlimited member this is my way of respecting Caliber and PWizard.
P.S.
Caliber & PWizard Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year!!!!!

for first hi there
i think every one knows me.i'm extreme from RADiANCE and old extalia.
about this:

So, Team Radiance, is this what you want your legacy to be? Ripping and cracking other people's trainers and code? if so, then Bravo. That's one talented group you have there.

PWizard can your proof which one of my trainers is ripped work from other trainers or groups?everything which i put in my trainers is my own work and i can proof all of them.

1. No not every knows that <_< before today i didnt know what this whole "radiance" crap was.

2. Prove* and yes they do.

3. Prove*

Hi eXtreme,

Thanks for posting. I was referring to Psych which represents your group. If he's going to put something out as a group and the group is going to support his actions, then the group must take responsibility.

It's probably not very wise of me to post, but I just wanted to say what's on my mind. I'm Tenebricosus(my nick was already in use on this board ) from Radiance Team(former Extalia member). Please do continue reading.... :P
I haven't heard of this going on until today.
Now about what you said:

Caliber
Posted: Dec 22, 2008 9:24:39 AM
"1) i been doing xlive 'memory based' trainers for games since halo 2 for pc. i've posted countless times regarding the xlive scanning process. i posted regarding the NEW way xlive is encrypting data for game variables in GTA. i posted that the game checks the integrity of the files for altered status and also that you cannot use other's save files, etc.

now i am looking and looking for postings regarding those facts from team extalia or team radiance but i don't see any... "

Actually we have been working on xlive too(as have all groups no doubt) in private. Psych worked out his own way of handling it(fully disabling xlive), he will show us soon. Meanwile [eXtreme] and I worked at another way. We are currently working on the last step (the crc checks).

Maybe we will make our work opensource when it's done, personally I don't care, but we are a team, so all team-members decide.

Furthermore, I think you owe a thanks to Psych. When you mailed him about kelsat, he looked around and showed us some proof of him ripping your trainers. Then he mailed to the distributing sites telling them about it. We do hate rippers as much as you.
Ok, I can understand someone doesn't want to learn how to make his own trainers, but it's really pathetic to steal some elses work and put your name on it.

As far as I know Psych doesn't rip trainers. And as long as I haven't seen any proof with my own eyes, I won't believe it. And you could easily see why, if you scroll through other gamehacking forums. He is helping other people. Now you tell me, how can someone who doesn't know how to make a trainer teach someone else how to make a trainer???

**** this is a long story already..

Please show me some proof of Psych ripping trainers if you have any. If you don't have any proof, please stop making false accuses. I haven't seen you ripping trainers. To be honest, I don't check such things (I know better ways to spend my time), but no one ever proved something like that to me, so until that time, you won't hear me saying such things.

I personally don't have anything against you. I don't understand why people would pay for a trainer, but who am I to forbid them. It's not my problem.

Ripping is, as is the name of my team and friends. So, please, IF YOU HAVE PROVE, SHOW IT!!


Ow yeah, That remark sheep made about wiccaan(and our team), as far as I know that is what's left of some old gamehacking.com problems, explained in here: Link

""and btw.. if radiance is that ****ing bull**** group run by wicccann.. then u should know better.. i would gladly stab him in the heart with a rusty ****ing spoon.. hes one of the most vile people ive met in my entire life..""

Normally I don't flame, but seriously, WTF, you must be really sick, Radiance is more than just Wiccaan, and if you have a problem with him, why put Radiance in it too??

hi again
sorry for my bad english.

you must take responsibility too for what just you said in the first post.

and this:

1. No not every knows that <_< before today i didnt know what this whole "radiance" crap was.

2. Prove* and yes they do.

3. Prove*

1.please be careful about what you say to the group.
2.i need prove.can you prove it?
PROVE PLEASE

[Edited by [eXtreme], 12/22/2008 3:45:26 PM]

[Edited by [eXtreme], 12/22/2008 3:49:41 PM]

****, typing my first message took so long, that there hes been some other post in the mean time.

@ the_corrupter, WTF, you say you don't know us(Radiance), but still you call us crap. On what ground is this flaming based??

@ PWizard, I agree, our group is responsible for trainers released under it's name(as long as it's done by team-members). Psych is a team-member. If you can show us some proof of Psych ripping trainers, Radiance-team can do something about it. As long as you haven't shown us, we will support Psych, no matter what happens.

I think this topic shoud be open and sticky. Because there are always some gossips about ripping a guy'work and somthing like that. So anyone who saw a fishy work report it with proof not just a word.
I personally do'nt accept such speeches just if i see some proofs like links to for example two or more trainers that show such disrespect manners among trainer maker groups.

From the day i had been here i did'nt confront with such problems and even after cal's accompanying with CHU i did'nt imagine that someone like Psych come and say cal'works are the rips of other trainer maker groups. Because before Cal's comming to CHU I was seeing his work in other places and no one complaint about his works.

I think these gossips are just from those who could not do such a great work. because if the could, surely they would do that. and make a website, putting their works and surely consider an unlimiter member which paying money to them. now that they have not such a website and can't support such a great work like what CHU is doing, they will say we made trainers just for fun and put them in torrent and P2P and...

Don't accept anything immediately!
think about it guys. 🤔