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HardRom  posted on Dec 24, 2008 9:06:51 PM - Report post

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originally posted by LolaDelRio

What an idiot to post it online it just makes me angry!

I will not stereotype, but I would hazard a guess that the people who are seriously, ragingly angry about the lack of free trainers are coincidentally the same ones who pirated the game. Before the flames, please notice that its not that far of a leap of logic.

Chingy-X  posted on Dec 24, 2008 9:23:24 PM - Report post

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To those who are saying the price is ridiculous, think of this. You easily spend way over $40 a day on food and water, making you spend $280 a week, or $14560 a year. Cheat Happens asks you for $25 A YEAR to download any and all trainers at your disposal. You think about that, all you need is a very, very small portion of common sense.

And HardRom, I pirated the game, but only because the government's banned it from my country, the UAE. (no I'm not really in Canada) The trainer works fine with it.

brighteye  posted on Dec 24, 2008 9:31:12 PM - Report post

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"please keep in mind, many hard hours do get put in to these trainers by their programmer(s), so I feel it is fair that they can get compensation, and to get the new software as they come out to make these trainers."

"many thanks @Chris, Cal and others(Merry Xmas! by the way)"

Yep, that about sums it all up, i agree, have a great x-mas!

Ratchet_Expert  posted on Dec 24, 2008 10:09:07 PM - Report post

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If you don't want to pay the membership, stop being lazy. Get your ass in front of that computer, start writing a FAQ/Guide for a game you know well, submit it here and hope you will be accepted.

That way, you get LIFETIME UNL. MEMBERSHIP for free, like I did.

XUn7ouchabl3X  posted on Dec 24, 2008 11:15:54 PM - Report post

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Whisperer  posted on Dec 25, 2008 6:17:55 AM - Report post

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originally posted by fsmcas


Ok, my car example was bad. Lets change it a bit: In front of your house are not two cars but ca. 90.000. ONE of these cars must be bought, every other one is totally free. Of the 89.999 free cars, 20.000 are old. 10.000 don't work. Another 10.000 drive kinda bad. and 9.999 more are totally damaged.

But still 40.000 cars are totally free. Would you keep paying for the one, exclusively car?

8 cent a day is a nice calculation. But $24.95 for a single trainer is crazy. Sorry.

That all depends. If there are 40,000 cars out there that are in good working order, and can do the SAME as the exclusive car, then I'd be nuts to buy the one car. Just like the salesman would have misunderstood the principles of salesmanship and creating scarcity and demand.

On the other hand, in our particular situation, none of the 40,000 cars can do what I need them to do. Only the exclusive car can, because the creator of it spent years of his life perfecting the design. So all the salesman then has to do, is make certain the price is reasonable.

As for me, for my payment, I have since gotten to drive around 45 cars, 10 of which I got to trade in for newer models with updated specs, even 2 years after the original came out.

No-one ever said the $25 was for a single trainer. If you're so dedicated to GTAIV that you play it exclusively and no other game, then I'm certain that, just like the squirrel and the squirrel-proof birdfeeder, you'll find a way to either get your hands on the prize, or a worthy alternative (start with Rick's wrapper and the GTAForums adress lists).
If you do make an awesome trainer though, I'm sure CH will be happy to host it for you, with immediate public release, and maybe even a free membership.

As much as I love playing with metaphors, being a writer and all, I fear this thread is slowly dissolving into a debate about the moral implications of charging for trainers.
So, I hereby publicly throw in the towel, and acknowledge you, sir fsmcas, as the winner. If you wish to see if we can compare more cars, please use a PM.

Thank you, and a merry Christmas to all, hope you all got your favorite games under the tree, and Cal, hope you got a movie-quality happy family gathering for Christmas.

Viscera1969  posted on Dec 25, 2008 8:22:12 AM - Report post

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originally posted by LolaDelRio

originally posted by Sa1nt

This is like forcing people to pay to download illegally. I find it sad that you guys have to charge for something like a trainer.

I personally think that if you want to release a trainer release it, and ask people to say thanks or put in ad into the GUI, but this is stupid beyond anything I have ever heard.

Sorry but this is ****ing lame to pay for 1 trainer that has what? 2 cheats. $25? Yeah, here's where I say kindly "cheat happens, go **** yourself"

Not really, if you want to cheat then there is a price for it.

Honestly, the membership pays off I have download some really great trainers from here.

If you don't like it here then why join up like your interested?

[Edited by LolaDelRio, 12/24/2008 6:45:23 PM]

*this is for Sa1nt:*

People like you that do not have enough commend sense to Fathom the big picture here, you are just not paying one time fee for one trainer that fee goes towards all the trainers you need or want past, present and future.

P.S. and if it was just 25 bucks for one trainer with 2 cheats on it, it would still be worth it to some since its the ONLY TRAINER OUT FOR THE GAME!

EDIT - Removed flaming, please refrain from name calling

[Edited by moderator potato_chips, 12/25/2008 3:01:56 PM]

Sorry for my out burst.

[Edited by Viscera1969, 12/25/2008 4:51:36 PM]

fsmcas  posted on Dec 25, 2008 3:10:49 PM - Report post

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So, merry christmas all of you. Please do not understand any of my post as a personal insult, they were just my thoughts. Lets keep it that way--

(--and continue this debate in the thread of the next exclusive-trainer XD)

Merry X-Mas!

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