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I only used it in SP mode so all the following are limited to SP mode.
first of all, the instant tactical and freeze game clock didn't work. I have read other threads so I know the freeze game clock are not designed for SP, but still it is quite needed when you play hard level. I don't know the instant tactical are in the same situation or not, but it didn't work either
Secondly, the invincible vehicles and slaughter mode seems reversed(or act oddly) in their function, whenever I enabled the invincible vehicles, it start to show this constant barrage of fire, solely press 7 won't work. And unfortunately, neither of these two works for the infantry, (I know its called vehicle mode but it would be much helpful if it is not difficult to include infantry as well)
Thirdly, the free camera mode can not be disabled, no matter how many times you press Number 9, you never able to disable it after it's been enabled once.
in above problems, what I disappoint most is the freeze game timer. Right now there is already free cheaters out there can use unlimited resource and tactical, the freez timer is only reason I pay for the mega trainer and painfully I found it didn't work. I don't really understand why you need freez timer in MP mode since you are playing with friends most of time.
(at least for me). the function in SP mode seems very important (or equally important as MP at least).
Hope it will be developed/fixed in next version sometime soon
< [Edited by Offall, 10/4/2007 2:34:17 AM]
[Edited by Offall, 10/4/2007 2:34:17 AM]
Just be happy at least something works in the trainer for you. Nothing in it does for me and I get killed before I can even get started, even in "easy," mode. It isn't the fault of the trainer, I just have one of those versions with which the trainer doesn't work I guess.
don't trust this $15 one, I am totally disappointed and gave up because it doesn't work as it described and creater doesn't care to fix it or even simply feedback.
I'm sorry you're disappointed in our trainer and would prefer to use a simple +2. Our trainer does in fact work as described. We explained that the timers were ONLY for skirmish matches and that we did not intend them to defeat campaign trainers. See more details: Link
The vehicle option also works as described. See more details here: Link. We never said anything about an invincible units option being added and even went into detail about how difficult it would be to add one.
So, as you can see, your issues have been answered in other threads (one reason you didn't receive instant feedback on your questions) and it mostly appears that you're upset that we haven't taken your requests and added them into the trainer. The fact is that we typically have no fewer than 10 games we're working on trainers for at any given time. Some games (like this one) we spend more time on than others. However, we can't dedicate weeks to a single game, adding every request that people have. If we did, then we'd publish about 2 trainers a month instead of 20-30 and many gamers would be left out in the cold. We try and give everyone a good selection of options and then when updates come out for the game, if there have been requests, we try to add them at that time.
You are right that two bugs I listed were addressed already, but may be you also notice other bugs I pointed were not actually addressed before, like the instant tactical and strange slaughter mode and unable to disable free camera
I only made one request (make time clock freeze in Single player) , not quite like what you said I only want more freatures. And I am not the only one saying it, you can find similar post in the first url you provided above. Moreover, I did addressed the reason why that feature is important. In fact I returned to free trainer since they work more smoothly for basic features and all your extra features were basically either bugsome or limited as you admitted above.
Unlike your interpretation, my main intention of the post was reporting to you the bugs I found , which I considered as a quite constructive feedback to your product, and you may want to read the title of my post to confirm this. So I was reasonably disappointed afterwards when I found no one cared.
When I said you didn't provide what you promised, I mean the readme txt, which is the only description file that you could find before buying it. It said nothing of all these limitations or bugs we talked above, that is why I think you wasn't been completely frank when you advertise your trainer.
Comparing to that, the reason you addressed why you don't bother fixing bugs or adding features was quite fair enough and reasonable actually. so I will stop arguing. Just hoping that, as part of basic customer support, you will release a updated version once the patch 1.1 of game comes out. In case you also happened to notice your advertisement (on your front page) of providing "exclusive custom cheat" to unlimited members. Then besides the brilliant customization of putting my username on the title bar exclusively for me (so you can conveniently catch me if I dare to leak it), you may even think about doing some bug fixing or feature adding as well.
[Edited by Offall, 10/7/2007 5:58:08 AM]
the 'bugs' you listed are not bugs at all! a bug is when something doesn't work. the trainer works just as described! i think a better way to put it is that it doesn't work like YOU want it to. unfortunately some things just aren't possible, or at least not possible for me to accomplish, either because of the way the game is coded or simply because of time constraints.
we DO appreciate requests, and we DO read all the feedback and if you look, we DO respond to the questions and feedback. I am RIGHT NOW looking at Spiderman Friend or Foe trainer that i did and also Tarr Chronicles trainer I did because of feedback. Now, we MAY NOT add the features you request but that doesn't mean we didn't take it into consideration or read your posts. Please don't be angry with us and become negative with us and try to see it from our point of view!
a few points:
I will concede that the free camera mode is a one-way street. You enable it and you can move the camera more freely. HOwever, this option does not make it where you can't move the camera like before! you just have more freedom with it. I suppose we can make it clear in the read-me that this is the case. THis just didn't seem like a big point as you enable the camera option to BE ABLE TO MOVE IT HIGHER AND MORE FREELY. I did not spend time coding the trainer to reverse this feature as I figured when someone enacted it that they would want to use it-
Regarding the Invinvible Infantry- we went into this already.
Regarding the Timers- too many timer types and too many missions. I haven't the time to play them all and get a trainer out and work on other trainers at the same time-
Regarding the "custom name" in the trainer title bar- sadly you miss the point here. yes we wish to catch those who distribute the trainers without our consent, but this is FOR the members benefit, since they payed for the ability to download it early. I would hope the members would appreciate that we are punishing those members who are leaking the trainers! If you payed for a service to get it early and some other jerk is giving it away for free wouldn't you be mad?
Regarding the 2 options trainer or any other trainer- if you feel our trainer isn't useful or doesn't compare to other trainers i'd love to debate you but the truth is that there just isn't anything that has these options or depth to it that our trainer does. There really isn't a debate here.
Regarding your statement- "don't trust this $15 one"- this is totally unfair of you to write and you know it. this makes me even question whether you are a legit member or someone here trying to cause trouble or move membership away from us. this trainer is part of an immense library of trainers, many of which are only available for a short time to the subscribers. More times than not we release the trainer for free later! At any rate, "this trainer" is not 15 dollars, the subscription to the site is 15 dollars for a whole YEAR and this includes ALL of the trainers, not just this one! You know this so why write it like you did? As for trusting it, well 33,000 downloads for the MEGA version alone can't be wrong!
I don't ever like to see members upset or feel they are being slighted. I am sorry that I cannot accomodate all the requests and things people want. I do think if you look fairly you will see that the trainer works as we described and is an incredible tool to play the game with!
[Edited by Caliber, 10/7/2007 11:29:50 AM]
I said I would stop arguing, so I won't. Just clarify two things so you wont feel you were beating a straw man. For these bugs you don't think as bugs, or even limitation at all. 1. did you say anything about clock and instant tactical only work in MP mode in your promotion triainer readme or anywhere in your webpage description? if not , you think ppl just automatically realize it by their own? So all those who asked about it in this board are intellectually challenged ? 2. for the free camera mode, you may notice after you turn it on, the whole world is trebling everytime when you scroll mouse wheel and tons of artifacts at the edges of screen to make it absolutely ugly and make you dizzy if you spin the map. then that is why someone want to turn it off immediately!
Since I was also defined as "someone here trying to cause trouble or move membership away from us". I will kindly share my experience with you. I bought the WIC last week, stuck in hard mode of level 7, googled around for trainer, then found the free +2 didn't help me to win as there was still not enough time left. Then I googled "world in conflict trainer freeze timer" you can check out what is the first result pop out. so I end up here, I did read the webpage, downloaded the promo trainer and did read the readme before I bought it. Only afterwards did I found it wouldn't work, so how happy I would feel? I felt even better after I found myself ignored for reporting what I found here, then eventually get called as "illegal user and trouble maker"
To tell you truth, I don't care this whole thing anymore as you have successfully forced me to improve my skill in the game and I am now near finishing it. Yes, you have another thousands of trainers out there, but I simply don't have so much money or energy to buy and play them so this FLAWLESS trainer is what I have ever get. You feel free to check out if I have ever downloaded anything else. (you got my name in titlebar so you for sure have that in record).
To show my legitimacy and DIGNITY, this is my last post in this forum as I won't argue with ppl who attack their customer personally. Thank you for your impressive customer support.
[Edited by Offall, 10/7/2007 4:10:43 PM]
I've updated the trainer's readme and description on the site to include more specific details on the options you have pointed out so that no one else is confused on how these are meant to be used.
Also, as Cal pointed out, we very much appreciate the feedback of our members and we use it on a daily basis to improve our trainers. Sometimes it's difficult with over 300,000 members and hundreds of trainers to get to every request or to answer every comment immediately. We'll continue working as hard as we can to put out quality content that everyone expects from our site.
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