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Medieval 2 v1.2 CH Trainer
Duckmeister11  posted on Aug 25, 2007 7:45:10 AM - Report post

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So, basically you're forcing me to pay for something I usually get for free? Talk about bait & switch. This is now only the #1 for cheats for people with money, not for people without, and you guys have took a turn more into that direction. I used to be able to get all my trainers from you guys, because you rock and making stuff like that, but this? And I'm sure Free users requested this feature too. Sorry, but this is making me think twice about using your service again. It seems now that I have to wait for every file, or, on your whim, pay for it, when I used to be able to get it for free.

I love that you stress that nobody upload it to any other sites. It shows that you know exactly what you are doing, and therefore you will be ticking off half of your community. That's no way to do business.

So I request, please make this feature and others available to users who don't want to pay. Thank you.

forty-two  posted on Aug 25, 2007 8:09:51 AM - Report post

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I don't think that you realize the time, effort and money that goes into making these trainers for pretty much every game that comes out, and then updating those trainers multiple times when new patches are published.

1. They've got to buy the game on the release date. Sometimes this might involve buying multiple copies from different sources (ie: Steam, D2D).

2. They've got to play the game through so they can determine what options to include in the trainer.

3. The game must be debugged so that the options can be traced. Doing this around major copy protection can be very difficult and time consuming.

4. The options must be play-tested to make sure they work properly and for the player only (not the enemy or AI). This must often be done on multiple systems with multiple operating systems (Vista, XP, DX9, DX10, etc).

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We ask for a small membership fee to help cover the time and expenses involved in these processes, and only for a short time until the trainer is released to the public. Please show us this courtesy. If you like the trainers and would like to see more made in the future, help support the site and become a member. Otherwise, please wait patiently for the trainer(s) to become available on the public release date.

PWizard  posted on Aug 25, 2007 8:22:15 AM - Report post

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Hi Duckmeister,

I appreciate your comments, however, this website is no longer a hobby for us, it's a business. We spend long hours every day creating, testing, updating and supporting the cheats that we create along with many that we don't. Do you have a job? At the end of the work day do you tell your boss nevermind about paying you, that you'd like to work for free from here forward?

We could be the anonymous warez group that releases a trainer whenever we feel like and hide behind bogus email addresses and non-existant websites and not care if the cheat actually works or not. Is this the type of service you prefer? We provide the highest quality trainers, we stand behind them, update them typically long after most others wouldn't have bothered and then support them on our forums and make fixes when necessary. These things require time and money. We try our very best to leverage our free content with the paid content and more times than not we release all of our cheats to the public after a small waiting period. 99.9% of the cheats on our website are free to the public. The occasional trainer, typcially for older titles, we may make a member exclusive to help offset all of the trainers that are released for free. At the end of the day if we can't make enough to pay our staff and most importantly, our programmer, then there will be no trainers to be had anyway. Many games would not have even received a trainer had it not been for our willingness to pay a programmer to create one.

So, support us or not is most certainly your decision, but don't criticize us for trying to create a successful website and provide a service that has long been missing in this niche.

Mogsy  posted on Aug 29, 2007 11:34:19 AM - Report post

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been having a few issues with 1.2 Trainer recently, not sure if it related to X-Fire running, but when i load up my savegame, after 1 turn with only 3 options activated, the game keeps crashing to desktop (CTD).

anybody else having this issue? I will try and run it without X-Fire loaded and see what happens.

matrix501  posted on Sep 04, 2007 10:03:55 PM - Report post

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How long do the free members have to wait to get this (v1.2) trainer and v1.3 trainer?
PWizard  posted on Sep 05, 2007 4:00:56 AM - Report post

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That would be forever. We don't plan on releasing the 1.2 and 1.3 trainers to the public. Sorry. Our Kingdoms trainer will be released to the public in a few weeks.
Enigmafirst  posted on Jan 15, 2008 6:56:41 PM - Report post

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Trainers are awesome!!!!
Enigmafirst  posted on Jan 15, 2008 7:51:39 PM - Report post

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OMG!!! The game is crashing at 1.2!!!!! That's it!!! I'm taking out kingdoms also
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