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OmertaRacer  posted on Dec 27, 2006 2:48:43 PM - Report post

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good point...
 
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in your prayer though, you do comend mary for her achievements as a human do you not?

and how can you say that any teaching is infallible? purgatory is a thing completely made up by man

and do you not beleive in human error?
im not trying to degrade the church or bible im just explaining reasons why i have no such faith...so if you are offended by what i have to say then tell me and i will end the discussion

[Edited by dstates, 12/27/2006 2:40:46 PM]

- Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with you. Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus.

Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners. Now and at the hour of out death, Amen.

Nope, nothing there about praising her human achievments.

- Purgatory is not made up by man because it is a Dogma. Dogmas are infallible truths that come from God. Once one of the Dogmas are broken, I will view them otherwise. But until then they are infallible and they will remain infallible until the end of time.

- Yes, who do you think I am. And what did I just say about the differnce between teachings, disciplines and human actions?

Listen carefully. Disciplines and human actions have already been corrupted in the Catholic Church, hence the actions taken by Martin Luther.

The teachings, have remained infallible, are infallible and will remain infallible until the end of time.

The 'have' and the 'are' is fact even to those who don't believe in God. The 'will' is fact to the faithful. So once again, until the Dogmas are broken, I will see them as infallible.

 
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Theres still a posibilty of the bible lying in some places, for example the new 'Gospel of Judos' and the fact he now it is being proven that Joseph might never have existed at all.

[Edited by OmertaRacer, 12/27/2006 2:41:51 PM]

Well, maybe that is why it is not in the Bible...

 
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the fact is, if the word of god is true..the bible has been twisted, perverted and mistranslated over the years. so nothing is completely solid fact

How, how, how, how...and how?

 
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quote:
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Theres still a posibilty of the bible lying in some places, for example the new 'Gospel of Judos' and the fact he now it is being proven that Joseph might never have existed at all.

[Edited by OmertaRacer, 12/27/2006 2:41:51 PM]

Well, maybe that is why it is not in the Bible...

well, Josuph is..
and it still says (as far as I am aware of) that Judos was the 'traitor'

 
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quote:
originally posted by dstates

the fact is, if the word of god is true..the bible has been twisted, perverted and mistranslated over the years. so nothing is completely solid fact

How, how, how, how...and how?

Because we do not believe what we see... that is our thoughts and oppinions, just the same as you would see the Arabic Muslim faith unfit for what you belive in...

[Edited by OmertaRacer, 12/27/2006 2:57:00 PM]

 
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well, Josuph is..
and it still says (as far as I am aware of) that Judos was the 'traitor'



I'm still trying to figure out what you just said...

What does that have to do with anything?

Please elaborate.

[Edited by darkish_raven, 12/27/2006 2:58:30 PM]

 
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quote:
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well, Josuph is..
and it still says (as far as I am aware of) that Judos was the 'traitor'

I'm still trying to figure out what you just said...

What does that have to do with anything?

Please elaborate.

[Edited by darkish_raven, 12/27/2006 2:58:30 PM]

We see things of your religion differently than you do same as you would surely see things of another religion differently than what the people of the religion would see it.

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