"You're funny. Give me some facts and proof of the Big Bang. Give me RECORDED DOCUMENTS from 15 million trillion billion years ago."
The best document is probably the Universe itself. How do we know about the Big Bang? The idea is used because of the so called "Red shift", which scientists have observed. This means that other suns are moving away from ours, meaning the Universe is continously expanding at a faster and faster rate. This has been calculated backwards and gave us the approximate time at which the Universe started to spread outwards. That time is not 6000 years ago.
"but not the Church itself, for if it were, then Christ would be corrupt."
Have you ever met Christ? How do you know he wasn't corrupt? History is written by the victors, anything could have been written by any loony in the Bible and people would believe it.
"And actually it is a 6000 year old book. But that is just semantics."
Guess what, there are recordings far older than that, take ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics, they date back far longer than 6000 years. So...did 'God' write these up before he made the Universe?
"Then what does it mean? Yes, most died, but all that means is God performed some miracles for the faithful perhaps to strengthen our faith."
But how does God then determine? I assume you're talking about the all-loving OT God. I would call the miracles Jesus performed as very arbitrary. I would agrue that a God that performs miracles at all is not worth worshipping. How can a good God solve a trivial problem of wine running out at a wedding and yet would not save the thousands starving in Sudan right now? If he was doing them then to strengthen our faith, why doesn't he perform a miracle now that so many people are breaking away from the church?
Excellent, you pretty much summed up my beliefs on Expansion Theory.
An the Egyptian documents are from about 8000 years ago. Something like that. I don't want to sound disrespectful to your god or anything, but the "God can do anything" line is too general to prove anything.
EDIT: Spelling error.
[Edited by Zeth_Durron, 10/21/2006 12:49:18 PM]
Miracles dont prove 'god'.
They just prove that scientists dont know everything yet
True, true.
Scientists don;t know everything (and never will) but there are some mysteries that may be better left unknown...such as if jumpnig into a boiling acid bath will kill you...