Zeth-
"God can't be disproved, but I defy you to give me concrete evidence proving him. Or it, or whatever."
The miracles that sicence cannot explain.
Let me tell you something. The theory of creation through evoluton has been pumped into the minds of the public school students for the past thirty or forty years (and possibly still today.)You cannot teach a theory as a fact.
"If I exist, I was created by evolution
If I was created by evolution, God Doesn't exist
Therefore, If I exist, God doesn't exist"
THEORY THEORY THERORY!
I could just say the same exact thing except.
If I exist, I was created by God
If I was created by God, creation through evoultion is false.
Therefore, If I exist, creation thorugh evolution is false.
Zeth, that really didn't make any sense.
[Edited by darkish_raven, 10/23/2006 7:23:07 PM]
[Edited by darkish_raven, 10/23/2006 7:23:32 PM]
Read the post, it was only supposed to prove that you cant comint two opposite points.
You have to look at it from our point of view...we don't care.
Here...
If I exist, I was created by God
If I was created by God, creation through evoultion is false.
Therefore, If I exist, creation thorugh evolution is false.
THEORY THEORY THEORY!
Of corse you can say the same thing. I studed that, and that can be switched. Tomorrow, im gonna write a paper for school about this, I'll post it here.
And you can't "prove" miracles with the Bible either. Its just a blinded faith on the issue. It works both ways.
[Edited by Zeth_Durron, 10/23/2006 7:29:33 PM]
Ahh, I think I know what you mean.
If A=B
And B=C
Then A=C
Like that?
If so, of course that doesn't prove God's existence or inexistence, so what was the point of posting it?
And who said you need the Bible to prove miracles? You don't need the Bible even though there are miracles in the Bible and miracles science cannot explain and the only answer is that a higher power created the miracles.
[Edited by darkish_raven, 10/23/2006 7:38:40 PM]
For the third time, the point of posting it is to prove that you can't combine your viewpoint with mine. You said somethign about atheism and that if God is corrupt...and so on. But with that statement, you impleid that Atheists believe in God. That is a contradiction of Definition. A Logical Fallacy.
There is more than one answer to the Miracles question.
You posed the idea that Either a higher power created miracles, or that they can't be proved. That is a fallacy called Tertium Quid (tertiary quandary, or third option) It states that a third option must always be present. So perhaps all existence is just in your head, and your mind creates your surroundings. Then, miracles would be you interpretation of natural events. That is the other option. If existence in in your head, then you could interpret anything how you wanted. Such as miracles.
Here is a possibilty. The Miracle of "The Water into Wine", the first recorded miracle. The obvious choices are
Primary Option = Miracle
Secondary Option = Historical error
Tertium Quid = Alchemy
Alchemy has been practiced since ancient times, with limited sucess. But perhaps, that Water was changed by an accident of a terra-chemical substances (earth-formed substances) that interacted with the absence of other chemicles and created a pleasnt-tasting drink. It is possible, but cannot be proved. Or disproved.
EDIT: spelling errors
[Edited by Zeth_Durron, 10/23/2006 7:54:02 PM]