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Sticky Topic  Membership Changes on Jan 1 -Please Read
Taurusplopp  posted on Dec 03, 2018 3:01:02 AM - Report post

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originally posted by ddzhalev


First of all, I understand and support your decision to monetize your services more. Living is neither free nor cheap and making these trainers probably takes up a lot of time for the CH team.

I do have a question though. I live in an area that's really prone to service problems, so my internet connection cuts off from time to time. Right now your trainers work perfectly fine when I'm offline, but will the upcoming changes affect that in any way?

Sorry if you've answered this or a similar question, but I did a quick search through the thread and didn't find anything.

Thanks for all your hard work.


Should our trainers authenticate on your side when you are cut off of any internet connection whatsoever and launch, then you use an offline key file. In case you need a new offline key sometime in the future and you reached your offline key file limit, you can just ask for a reset and create a new key file. – Nothing changes for you, only new members signing on January 01, 2019 and after have to purchase offline keys.

Fellstroke  posted on Dec 03, 2018 3:11:55 AM - Report post

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Similar things tend to happen to games that initially have a Pay to Play service with a Lifetime Subscription. The Monthly Subscription is typically about $15 a month to play while the Lifetime Subscription is typically about $200 to play until the game retires (like CoH/CoV). While $200 might sound like a lot to some, it's really only 13 1/3 months (so if you played 14 months, you got a $10 return on your investment). These companies tend to sell to other companies or change their financial structure (some will stay Pay to Play while some will go Free to Play), but both will typically lead the same end; massive amounts of micro-transactions for maybe all of the following and more:

Misc. Items
Special Currencies
In-game Currencies

It doesn't matter if they stay Pay to Play or go Free to Play, they typically always go Pay to Win even if the game doesn't have a PvP option.

CH happens was bound to follow in this direction (changing your financial structure). You offer an unrivaled service (sometimes I swear the trainers are out before the games are, only thing that comes close is certain cheat tables, but that can often be a recipe for disaster and they take forever to get updated) and there are countless games on the site. I hope this helps with the finances and that it goes over well.

[Edited by moderator Taurusplopp, 12/3/2018 6:34:12 AM]

Cooldrive  posted on Dec 03, 2018 3:19:53 AM - Report post

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Another problem with offline keys: My gaming platform(s) are based on Windows 10 and I am using offline keys. Every time Microsoft releases the two major yearly OS updates, my offline keys will get useless- seems the keys think they are new PC:s. Now, I am a Lifetime Plus member so I can still ask for new keys according to the subscription, but this will probably be a problem for new members. Or am I the only one sitting with nonfunctional keys after major OS updates in Windows 10 or have I missed something? If not, is there a chance of restructuring the keys to be able to survive the two yearly updates?
Taurusplopp  posted on Dec 03, 2018 6:37:13 AM - Report post

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Please read what I posted on top of this page about offline keys for current Lifetime members.

Gel214th  posted on Dec 03, 2018 6:50:47 AM - Report post

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Holy crap.

I'm already a Lifetime member, so this doesn't affect me terribly. But I am wondering about the future.

Would this put the site on the radar of publishers who in the future may want to shut down Trainers since it interferes with their monetization of the Single Player market?

Keep up the great work, sites like this save our hobby lol

[Edited by Gel214th, 12/3/2018 6:51:23 AM]

Garia666  posted on Dec 03, 2018 8:08:32 AM - Report post

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im glad i have a lifetime membership, me personaly think 13 dollars for a monthly cheat subscription is a bit overdone.
5 dollars a month would have been more a realistic figure purely ( based on my own sentiment of what i would be willing to pay).

i have no idea what the burdon is to make this all happen and i am glad that this service still continues.

This so call service makes me play games i normally wouldnt, by enjoying the story line, not having the hassle of actually mastering the game.

99% of the trainers also actually work so thats cool.

AngelinaJolie  posted on Dec 03, 2018 9:26:12 AM - Report post

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True enough. Really can't say I haven't gotten way more than I paid for. So I just upgraded to Lifetime Plus. Keep up with the great work.
Maudiy  posted on Dec 03, 2018 10:20:25 AM - Report post

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Just bought lifetime subscription with the black friday and I don't regret it. You actually do a beast work and i love it, WE love it.

My lifetime will upgrade at begin of next month to PLUS, for 5$ per month, it's my way too to say a big thank you for your work


[Edited by moderator Taurusplopp, 12/3/2018 10:21:40 AM]

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