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Joka91  posted on Dec 17, 2018 3:35:04 AM - Report post

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Am I completly wrong or did the game slower its Update ratio ?
 
Prpich  posted on Dec 17, 2018 11:19:31 AM - Report post

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Are you guys lacking in employees to do the work? I just don't understand when people such like myself, are paying for a service, this service, are told that its unstable and it cant be done, but then i go find a trainer for free that's up to date and working properly.

Its disheartening to say the least. I figured there would be more motivation and effort put in towards getting these trainers updated for a paid service, while free trainers i wouldn't expect them to be updated on a regular basis.

That's why i sit here confused about this. I respect you guys and the decision you made, but i don't like it, and don't agree with it both on a work ethical stand point and as a paying customer.

 
DragonStryder  posted on Dec 17, 2018 11:40:05 AM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by Prpich

Are you guys lacking in employees to do the work? I just don't understand when people such like myself, are paying for a service, this service, are told that its unstable and it cant be done, but then i go find a trainer for free that's up to date and working properly.

Its disheartening to say the least. I figured there would be more motivation and effort put in towards getting these trainers updated for a paid service, while free trainers i wouldn't expect them to be updated on a regular basis.

That's why i sit here confused about this. I respect you guys and the decision you made, but i don't like it, and don't agree with it both on a work ethical stand point and as a paying customer.

Hello Prpich,

We have 2 trainer makers that update and make new trainers everyday. this requires a lot of work (check the code, see whats changed, test the trainer, fix it or build a new one from scratch) and even then they can release around 10-20 trainers a day. if you expect them to update every trainer for every game on a daily base then you sure do not know the amount of work it takes. that service you pay for is for the thousands of trainers already here that work fine, and you get mad of a trainer that is on hold because it got updated multiple times a day and just took to much time & work to keep updated? if you do not like what you get, nobody is forcing you to pay.

[Edited by DragonStryder, 12/17/2018 11:41:31 AM]

 
Prpich  posted on Dec 17, 2018 3:04:22 PM - Report post

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I was confused, disheartened at the situation, one could also say disappointed, but please dont assume im "mad". Now while i might not be an expert in coding for memory script trainers i do have a bit of knowledge in what it takes, and how long it takes, depending on the expertise level of the person. It does take time, that was never in question, but for me i questioned why the work was cast to the side?

Which, was what i thought, a lack of employees to meet the current demand.

Now while you do have thousands of trainers that work fine, we are on this trainer, for this game. The service i pay for? This is trainer is part of that service. All i did was ask a simple question, and expressed myself in a civil manner about how i felt about it.

You're right, nobody is forcing me to pay for this. Ive got to say though and pardon the language, im not looking to get my ass kissed here, im also not looking to have an employee belittle me with retorts about my intelligence and paying for this service.

Again, not mad. Just disappointed. Hopefully you guys can get to it.

[Edited by Prpich, 12/17/2018 3:05:12 PM]

 
Alogan19  posted on Dec 17, 2018 5:57:40 PM - Report post

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I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime. Sometimes they take away shows that I used to have or they refuse to add certain shows I'd like to watch.

They are Billions" developers say that the main single player Campaign is arriving in spring 2019. They keep adding lots of content to the game and I suspect making a lot of changes to background values as they do this. So hence the lack of updates because to be blunt, I'm happy they are also pushing out trainers for new releases, I pondered buying Hitman 2, saw it was covered here, game bought. They even updated Star Wars Empire At War in the last couple of months (A very old game) because its had a resurgence of players due to mods and patches. I have parked "They are Billions" until the devs stop messing with the game, I have a big library so I can wait and the CH team update it (of course the joke will be the playerbase will probably have shrunk by then)

Sometimes the support staffers replies can be hit and miss on here. I've run into times when it is copy pasting a stock response that does not apply or they are very blunt. Yet as far as I know they are unpaid volunteers, not employees.

What I can see is your post on the previous page saying about taking your membership elsewhere, this is not a restaurant where the waiters will beg you to stay or offer you free wine, If you want to go, just go. The silent majority of their user-base will vote with their memberships, not with their forum posts. Also by your use of words and writing on this page and the previous it feels like you are annoyed at the CH team, the use of the word "mad" can also apply. Albeit a poor word to use.

CH is fundamentally a team of 4, 2 of which actually code the trainers. Their biggest flaws especially with a switch to "as a service" are never the technical trainers or availability for me, its namely the stuff that grinds my gears but 90% of people don't care about.

[Edited by Alogan19, 12/17/2018 6:04:04 PM]

 
Prpich  posted on Dec 17, 2018 6:37:35 PM - Report post

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Comparing a streaming service or even a restaurant is a far cry from what is offered here, but i get what your saying.

As for my other post, you're just putting words in my mouth. I said i would have to look else where, as in look for a trainer else where. Not only that, you must of read over the part where i said i dont want my ass kissed. So completely disregarded one thing, then put words in my mouth.

Which i have found. *Another trainer* has a basic trainer for this game that is up to date and working. Limited on options, but working. This is one guy, working only on donations.

You might not want to post or express yourself, and if that's your thing, more power to you. But im not you, i would rather discussion and have an exchange of information before taking action. Which would be hard to do since my membership is a lifetime plus membership...Kinda hard to do that...At least the lifetime part...Even the plus is paid up for a year...So yeah.

As for the size of the team. If they do not wish to hire on more employees to meet the demand, then guess what you will get, unhappy people complaining. Heck i thought ive been explaining myself in a logical and reasonable manner. At the very least, not toxic and flaming up the forum.

Hell at this point, it is what it is. I'm disappointed, your missing out on shows from netflix and prime, and CH is over worked and underpaid. lol


Do not post names of other trainer makes/companies on our boards

[Edited by moderator ServiusTheBear, 12/18/2018 2:53:53 AM]

 
B4Marc  posted on Dec 17, 2018 9:20:37 PM - Report post

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I want this and you want that

Patience will do the trick, complaining, even if constructive will not help

[Edited by moderator ServiusTheBear, 12/18/2018 2:55:19 AM]

 
Caliber  posted on Dec 17, 2018 11:23:23 PM - Report post

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I've explained 1000 times over the course of months and months why we keep putting the game and trainer on hold.

if the film makers of a movie had had to keep re hiring and re training new crew, new actors, new locations, new set peices, over and over to film the same scene BEFORE the entire movie comes up because the director can't seem to make up his mind, well the folks working on the movie or those who are paying for it simply bow out until the movie is completed.

We are doing the same.

If you were working on this from our side, it would be perfectly clear.

The fact we posted 43 trainers and there is 55 pages of people chiming in about updates over the course of 12 months should make it glaringly obvious this game development is a train wreck and garbage..

best,
Cal

[Edited by Caliber, 12/17/2018 11:24:28 PM]

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